I think that it stems from aphantasia itself. A human mind unable to use mental imagery as a guide or for reflection is to me no different than that of an animal reacting to stimuli -- soulless and thoughtless. I personally cannot even conceive of such an existence.
meme illustrates what I mean.
I do however believe that it is not hopeless, and that one can actually develop this ability. By promoting the use of mental imagery, I am convinced that we can literally birth a soul into the mindless masses out there, thus bringing about a greater world. Perhaps the lack of which was intentional all along for easy population control.
This is a strange correlation, but the first batch of chickens that we hatched there was one that tamed to the point that she would seek me if I was outside, demand to be picked, and if I wouldn't, she would jump onto my shoulder for a ride. I didn't use food to get her to be like this, I still don't know why she was as we held all the others, too, while they were little.
She was the same breed as all the others. She even had the exact same markings as two of her sisters. But her eyes changed, they had a depth that the others didn't have and I could pick her out from her sisters by that alone(if she wasn't coming for attention). She even seemed to have a level of "consideration" of consequence that others didn't have.
I've noticed this eye difference in other species. We had three geese, identical to one another. Initially they were not very tame at all, but gradually one was tamer than the other two, and one was semi tame, the third might as well have been wild. There was visible difference in their eyes, as well, noticeable perception and understanding of things, like you could see the wheels turning behind their eyes.
The goats were also like this.
I don't know if it is genetic or of the environment can truly change the ability to "wake up." I had the sense that these animals that became tame, earned a spirit or soul through awareness that they wouldn't have had without interaction with a human benefactor.
I think so much goes into preventing people from being able to access much of their minds and consciousness. Fluoride, aluminum, plastics, sugars, hydrogenated oils, food devoid of nutrients, non stop entertainment to prevent time to think, the destruction of value of art, meaningless braindead jobs, the list goes on and on.
Maybe if some people could reduce a great number of these things they could wake up. For now, I'll be wondering about if their eyes will change.
Interesting. You should breed that one, and then breed those offspring with the same trait.
I wish I could. She died a couple months ago, couldn't figure out what was wrong. Was a very sad day, I still miss her. Have never had another chicken like her since. I have a fresh batch hatching right now, maybe I'll get lucky again.
I think you are on to something, the modern system certainly does not promote a soulful and intellectual atmosphere. Dumber masses are easier to control, and promoting the use of technology for easy short-term dopamine hits, for example, is certainly a large part of pacifying them.
Technology is a beautiful thing but needs to come with a Whites only sticker.
A gun is a tool in the hands of the peaceful.
I had this conversion the other day and realized that I was literally unable to find a way to explain what 'mental imagery' is to those that have none. I was born with it, but realized very young that I could increase its clarity just by using it more. Later in life I found that meditation expands it profoundly.
How often do you hear the discussion of meditation throw around in a serious conversation? Usually it's in a feminine yoga setting -- a tragedy of modernity. Ancient books often discussed it as regular practice and obviously for good reason. Meditation is a function of the human mind, and it goes unused by too many.
It's certainly useful for when your mind is in "jumping monkey mode", like when you have attention span and self control issues. Good for mental clarity and self discipline.
I think that it stems from aphantasia itself. A human mind unable to use mental imagery as a guide or for reflection is to me no different than that of an animal reacting to stimuli -- soulless and thoughtless.
You're right and, crucially, a consequence of this is that they lack a sense of self which is independent from their beliefs. Quoting something I posted :
They are incapable of separating their sense of self, of who they are, from the ideas they currently hold.
The result is that their entire identity is built around what they believe in. In fact, their identity is what they believe in. And vice versa. And so they cannot process or integrate new information which contradicts assumptions they previously made. Because any such information is a direct attack against their very selves. So it just makes them angry, sad, furious, depressed. They cannot bring themselves to consider it. No matter what you show them, or how much evidence piles up.
Consequently, they become people who know little, believe much, and have overly inflated and fragile egos. NPCs, in a nutshell.
Unfortunately, I don't share your optimism about this being fixable. I've never once witnessed an NPC "becoming human" in the sense of acquiring an independent self. I suspect it is genetic; you either have it or you don't. You either know the difference between "I am ..." and "I believe ...", or you don't.
Maybe, maybe, it's something that can be instilled at a very young age. But, even if so, some just have it, without intervention or help, and others don't. Those who grew into adulthood without ever once having an independent thought are a lost cause in any case. Why would you want to salvage them, even if you could? How is that different from pulling niggers out of their mud huts and pretending that makes them just like us?
their entire identity is built around what they believe in. In fact, their identity is what they believe in.
Indeed, they are literally a collection of someone else's thoughts and ideas; a wholly synthetic mind. I've read on some norm forums such as reddit for instance where they have discussed this at length. Many were unaware that such a thing as mental imagery even existed, relegating it to euphemism when they heard it. One user discussed their inability and claimed to have spent months trying to conjure its ability, and succeeding in doing so. The ignorance to and curiosity of the subject alone is pause enough for me to believe that it may be possible for them.
The alternative is to give up and live amongst a mass of thoughtless machines that would kill you all the same as an equal.
I reject giving up.
I'm all for making information available to anyone who has the ability and initiative to consume it. But if you need to routinely hand feed a creature, in order for it to survive, then perhaps it doesn't deserve to.
You mentioned this one user's curiosity... This makes me wonder whether this was just someone who was born with the vision, but who had let it atrophy due to growing up in an environment that is so saturated with "programming", and so critical and dismissive of thought. NPCs generally lack curiosity. Their reaction to the new and unexplained - let alone the contrary or controversial - tends to be a mix of fear, disdain and anxiety. Not excitement or interest. It makes them deeply uncomfortable and they desperately try to get back to whatever feels safe and known. The only new ideas they tend to accept are those which have been pre-digested and pre-approved, hand-delivered in bite-sized pieces via established channels.
It's difficult to imagine how someone with a strong natural sense of curiosity would even wind up as an NPC to begin with. You'd think they would discover these things on their own, if they are indeed discoverable and not inborn.
Another alternative would be to accept this is how they are, or at least that manipulating them in this way is far more effective than attempting to reason with them, and therefore proceed to take advantage of them in a more benign and productive way than their current masters.
If our enemies can program them, so can we.
that fucking meme is gold
Aphantasia... So that's what it is called.
Funny, I was thinking of this driving to my college the other day. I imagined my AR I lost in a tragic boating accident, loading it, where my fingers would be, pulling the charging handle, aiming at an old target thrown up against a dirt wall we made, I can "see" and "feel" every detail, every texture of that weapon. I can take it apart and put it together, struggle with that damn D-ring that refuses to fucking move, feel the surprisingly cold metal as I grip it, the jolt as a round is fired, the slight shake of the scope with said jolt, the sound between a pwish and pop as it goes off...
And that's just an AR. Something like an apple, same idea. I can take the skin off, change its color, flip it around, crush it in my hand, turn it into a house, have a lit fuse on top and make it explode more apples inside a chemistry lab I used to go to...
The mind is an odd thing, isn't it?
The mind is a quantum machine limited only by our time on Earth and willingness to use it.
Now I just gotta figure out how to manifest stuff into reality. Grab matter from a star on the other side of the universe and use what little energy necessary to create gold bars, limitless on demand cooked food, bullets, rifles of and weaponry of all kinds...
Ever play KOTOR back in the day? The Star Forge? I want one for Christmas.
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