He spent his whole life fighting for zog. If he admits he spent it working against his own and his families best interest it will destroy whatever semblance of peace zog has left him with.
Nice opener is pointing out he doesn't support people's first amendment rights. Explain why. He either back pedals or he proves your point.
Wouldn't hurt to educate him on the origins or Google, twitter, and Facebook.
He agrees with social media censorship and blocking of any person or group no matter what the reason. Gave an example how a "right wing nutcase" threatened him with bodily harm. I said that violent assholes are not unique to any political party. Said that I was way off base for not watching MSDNC and others. He thinks I get my info from online crackpots and loonies. Well, if MSM is not an option, you have to go find the truth in unfamiliar places.
You'll have to find common ground on which to move forward. But most importantly, people have to want to know. If he doesn't want to know, you're talking to a wall.
Agreed. At least he doesn't start yelling like my mother does. She has a full blown conniption fit just mentioning the T word. "That SONOFABITCH!"
Your dad swore an oath to defend the Constitution from assholes like your dad.
A sizable portion of the population has been trained to see anything American with contempt. He is part of that population. Frustrating. Everything he is not interested in is stupid. Anyone that doesn't think like him is an idiot. You know people like that I'm sure.
Yep. Within my immediate family.
The fact that someone was in the military for 20 years does not make them smart. Its called the working man's welfare for a reason.
My dad refuses to talk politics, our relationship is fine.
Mom is senile and crazy and I don't know how he can stand her... but I guess she's why he never talks politics.
Anytime we talk politics it's contentious. He is hard line old school democrat and sees everyone else as ignorant arrogant Right-wing rePUBlicans. Emphases added. I can't wait for him to hear " My fellow Americans, the storm is upon us.." What a shock to his system that will be IF it happens.
If it's always contentious then why do it? They aren't going to change their mind based on information you provide. You are their child, they will always see you as a child. Familiarity breeds contempt. Let it go and salvage what relationship you can with them while they're here. If they were shitty parents and you hate them, walk away.
Difficult to do because I want him to be the father he should be and not the asshole that he is. I guess that's difficult for me to let go of. He raised me with drugs and alcohol along with mental/emotional and some physical abuse. Still dealing with that to this day. I sometimes sense some curiosity in him but I think his ego is to huge and fragile to assimilate evidence that would shake his world view.
He just ends up saying I'm fucked up and that he doesn't give a shit anymore. If things happen the way many of us believe it will, his system will be shocked beyond the breaking point. Mother and sister are full on socialists that see Newsom as a rock star. I no longer speak their language.
Sounds lots like my mom. Except she was a republican when she was elected for the stuff she was elected for...
Laugh at his ignorant ass and tell him BOHICA.
When he gets pissed at shit the gov't does to him laugh and tell him that's his politics in action, comrade.
I got mine on voat for a couple years before it got shoah'd. His brain still can't understand why jews jew, but he's beyond thinking it's all a coincidence.
Yes, I think that's his problem as well. He is not thinking large enough and his views are based on long dead accpeted characteristics of the Democrat party.
He's no democrat. He just doesn't understand our greatest ally
I try to avoid such discussions and just start talking about jews.
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