This thread sounds like someone talking to themselves. We are not going to be able to convince anyone of anything, and tbqh the only logical means left is a dividing of the United States of America, so the left/communist/socialists have their area, and we sane, logical folks have another. Of course, this will bring wars between both sides, because that's how communism works. I'm not pushing for violence because that's the fastest way to get everyone in fema camps for "re-education". There has to be a better way.