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... but what’s really discouraging is seeing how many other users just immediately rush to the defense of the admins, kissing their nuts, and defending this obvious abuse of power.

Every year around (((Super Bowl))) time, I watch as millions of people descend into a demoralized state of being, level of consciousness etc ... in their minds, it’s perfectly okay for referees to make bad calls favoring their team, but they absolutely lose their shit when when it works against them.

See, normies don’t care whether the game is being played well or fairly according to the rules; they only care that their team wins - to hell with the rules!

What’s cool about a legitimate free-speech site, is that it’s devoted to a level playing field - where competing ideas can duke it out on their own merits. In that way, objective truth can be arrived at.

Obviously, great care must be taken to ensure that the system not be completely subverted.

But that’s not what I saw. I saw Partisans siding with the admins, making every excuse for them, on the basis that “we’ve seen how pointless free speech is!!”

Which is obvious demoralization. You all have been demoralized.

I’m not really interested in arguing about this: if it’s not against you, personally, you probably won’t give a shit. Until it’s your turn. I’ve watched as a bunch of otherwise “good” active posters decided to fling other “good” posters to the wolves. No interest in trying to understand whether the admins’ decisions were good, or just. Name-calling and shit-flinging. No attempt to find truth.

There’s absolutely no way a place like this can possibly remain usefully objective for very long. Admins will just ban whomever they don’t like, for whatever reason, without explanation - and it will simply be their personal political party.

I’m sure many of you will be perfectly okay with that. But it’s not what I’m here for. I’m here for the Truth.

I sure as hell won’t be pinging anyone involved.

... but what’s really discouraging is seeing how many other users just immediately rush to the defense of the admins, kissing their nuts, and defending this obvious abuse of power. *** Every year around (((Super Bowl))) time, I watch as millions of people descend into a demoralized state of being, level of consciousness etc ... in their minds, it’s perfectly okay for referees to make bad calls *favoring* their team, but they absolutely lose their shit when when it works *against* them. See, normies don’t *care* whether the game is being played well or fairly according to the rules; they only care that their team wins - to *hell* with the rules! *** What’s cool about a legitimate free-speech site, is that it’s devoted to a *level playing field* - where competing ideas can duke it out on their own merits. In that way, objective truth can be arrived at. Obviously, great care must be taken to ensure that the system not be completely subverted. But that’s not what I saw. I saw Partisans siding with the admins, making every excuse for them, on the basis that “we’ve seen how pointless free speech is!!” Which is *obvious* demoralization. You all have been demoralized. *** I’m not really interested in arguing about this: if it’s not against you, personally, you probably won’t give a shit. Until it’s *your* turn. I’ve watched as a bunch of otherwise “good” active posters decided to fling other “good” posters to the wolves. No interest in trying to understand whether the admins’ decisions were good, or just. Name-calling and shit-flinging. No attempt to find truth. There’s absolutely no way a place like this can possibly remain usefully objective for very long. Admins will just ban whomever they don’t like, for whatever reason, without explanation - and it will simply be their personal political party. I’m sure many of you will be perfectly okay with that. But it’s not what I’m here for. I’m here for the Truth. I sure as hell won’t be pinging anyone involved.

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You're not the one being an asshole.

Someone who pings busy people repeatedly with empty messages IS acting as an asshole acts.

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Someone who pings busy people repeatedly with empty messages IS acting as an asshole acts.

I think it’s possible that the person involved wasn’t doing it on purpose; every once in a while, I get like ten pings in as many minutes because ARM is firing off a shit-ton of comments.

ARM told me he wasn’t doing it to spam the admin. You’d have to convince me that he’s straight up lying about that.

ARM was also bitching about the lists at the same time, which is something I saw the admin get pissed off about on more than one occasion.

Everything I saw leads me to believe the admin just got tired of ARM’s bullshit, and found a reason to ban him. It’s the explanation with the best explanatory power.

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Maybe it's true.

But regardless to me, it seems that POAL's culture is more difficult for assholes to flourish in, unlike voat. And that is something I find worth appreciating.

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Yeah no, I agree with that. I like the site, and legitimately appreciate the efforts if the admins.

I’m legitimately not looking to stir up shit, or “whine” or any of that.

In this one case, the admin made a bad call. I’ve literally never complained about anything like this. Ever.

And receiving a bunch of flak for it, because everybody wants to believe in this site.

If people are unwilling to stand against legitimate bullshit when it occurs, the site will fall. I don’t want to see that happen.