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Now that the vaccine has started to be distributed I have started having regular conversations on the subject of "Are you going to get the vaccine?"

My answer is always "Fuck no. I don't think it is safe." About 75% of the time I see a relieved look on their face when they realize that they do not have to have an uncomfortable conversation. I live in a very left\blue location and even here the acceptance level for the vaccine is shockingly low. Even the sheeple can tell when something smells like a pile of shit.

But about 25% of the time it is clear that the person I am talking to is in the other camp... and they always challenge me. They think they are going to score an easy win against a 'crazy anti-vaxer' ... but I have perfected a very quick and strait forward argument that disarms them and has been very successful in making them stop and think

When they launch into "But why!?!?!" they typically want to get into herd immunity, social responsibility, protecting the at-risk, etc. but I don't let them. I stop them and say "Look, I am a huge supporter of vaccines. I'm not an anti-vaxer. My issue with the covid 'vaccine' (I use finger air quotes) is that it is not really a vaccine. It is Experimental Gene Therapy. A normal vaccine teaches your immune system to make the proper anti-bodies by exposing it to a dead or weakened versions of the virus so your immune system can learn to fight it in a safe way... The covid shot is gene therapy to edit your genetics to make you have a resistance to the virus. This is risky medicine and we have NEVER tried this before. No vaccine has ever been produced that works in this way and we have no idea what will happen when we start monkeying with people's DNA"

I have found this argument, and specifically calling it 'Experimental Gene Therapy' to be a successful argument. It really make them think and often I hear "I did not know that... now I need to go do some research."

In my day to day life I have stopped calling it the "Covid-19 Vaccine" and I will always call it 'Covid-19 resistance gene therapy'. This has created conversation opportunities where there had been none and I think i have helped a number of people to wake up a little.

Language matters. Choose your words.

Now that the vaccine has started to be distributed I have started having regular conversations on the subject of "Are you going to get the vaccine?" My answer is always "Fuck no. I don't think it is safe." About 75% of the time I see a relieved look on their face when they realize that they do not have to have an uncomfortable conversation. I live in a very left\blue location and even here the acceptance level for the vaccine is shockingly low. Even the sheeple can tell when something smells like a pile of shit. But about 25% of the time it is clear that the person I am talking to is in the other camp... and they always challenge me. They think they are going to score an easy win against a 'crazy anti-vaxer' ... but I have perfected a very quick and strait forward argument that disarms them and has been very successful in making them stop and think When they launch into "But why!?!?!" they typically want to get into herd immunity, social responsibility, protecting the at-risk, etc. but I don't let them. I stop them and say "Look, I am a huge supporter of vaccines. I'm not an anti-vaxer. My issue with the covid 'vaccine' (I use finger air quotes) is that it is not really a vaccine. It is Experimental Gene Therapy. A normal vaccine teaches your immune system to make the proper anti-bodies by exposing it to a dead or weakened versions of the virus so your immune system can learn to fight it in a safe way... The covid shot is gene therapy to edit your genetics to make you have a resistance to the virus. This is risky medicine and we have NEVER tried this before. No vaccine has ever been produced that works in this way and we have no idea what will happen when we start monkeying with people's DNA" I have found this argument, and specifically calling it 'Experimental Gene Therapy' to be a successful argument. It really make them think and often I hear "I did not know that... now I need to go do some research." In my day to day life I have stopped calling it the "Covid-19 Vaccine" and I will always call it 'Covid-19 resistance gene therapy'. This has created conversation opportunities where there had been none and I think i have helped a number of people to wake up a little. Language matters. Choose your words.

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GMO food = bad. GMO people = good.

Don't eat meat. Put fetal dna in blood stream.

Drug addicts suffering from mental illness. Give me needle so I can be normal.

[–] • 4 pts

Government Injection

[–] • 4 pts

Good tactic, I'll try it.

I'm in a red state, and it seems like about half of the people I talk to are on board with "vaccinating". Seems to me like some of them are only on board because they think they have to be, especially those I know to work in healthcare.

[–] • 3 pts

I agree, when I read the information about it being mRNA "vaccine" nothing made sense about why they would call it that, then to learn that it is in fact the same method that is described as gene therapy.

This seems to be the medical industry bread and butter, renaming and re-branding ideas for useful idiot consumption.

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mRNA is a blueprint for a protein, the protein factories of the cells read it and crate the protein. The vaccines contain blueprints for the spike proteins of the virus. After the protein is produced, the cell detects the alien protein and alerts the immune system by presenting it on its surface. The RNA never enters the nucleus of the cell where the DNA resides.

[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

"Now that the vaccine has started to be distributed", it is not a vaccine, it is experimental gene therapy.

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lolz.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

That is a good strategy, I agree that it is not a vaccine, the way most people think about it. They are already broadening the definition of "vaccine" to accommodate this type of treatment.

It's best to be informed so: It doesn't modify your DNA. It is mRNA, which will trick your cellular machinery into building the same or similar proteins that the virus does, which then tricks your immune system into producing the same antibodies. There are of course other major concerns I and others have about this, including long-term changes to the immune systems of a huge portion of the population.

The information on Poal is more honest than you will see elsewhere:

[–] • 2 pts

Could also trick your cellular machinery into making mad cow prions.

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

True. If the vaccine is mandatory then it should be public domain IP instead of trade-secreted.

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Trying this on the part of my family that is literally today forming the line heading into the vaccine rendering plant.

I hope we are wrong about this, but my gut is telling me the ‘vaccine’ that was made in less than a year and never tested on anyone is not safe and will cause fertility loss and probably mass cases of cancer 15-20 years from now.

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Once again, for the 3,000th time on this tinfoil hat website, the covid vaccine does not "edit your genes". The base assumption in your argument is wrong, and every point afterwards comes from a place of ignorance. This is why people don't listen to you.

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No you just fell into the conversation trap I have set. Calling it Gene Therapy is intended to get you to think about it and is much more accurate than you think... the reality is that all viruses interact on the DNA level. This is the only way viruses can replicate; they must hijack real cells in the body and trick the cells into producing more copies of the virus. They do this by injecting their own genetic material into one of your cells and hijacking the cell's protein replication process to copy the virus DNA rather than your own DNA. A normal vaccine does none of this... all it does is expose your immune system to a 'safe' version of the virus so it knows how to fight it. An mRNA 'vaccine' is actually a genetically modified virus which will hijack your cells and genetically manipulate them into virus factories producing theatrically 'safe' versions of Covid for your immune system to learn with.

But viruses infecting a cell is not the same as gene therapy you say? Normally you would be right but not in the case of the Covid-19 'Vaccine'. You see there are normal viruses and then there are retro viruses... a normal virus just injects it's genetic material into one of your cells and that material acts like a rogue cell nucleus... The cell is still your DNA in the cell nucleus. But a reto virus is different It will infect and rewrite parts of the actual cell nucleus, turning the cell into a weird human/virus hybrid. When we do this in the lab we call it 'Gene Therapy'. This is also why reto viruses can be so hard for your immune system to fight... the infected cell looks like part of the host to the immune system because it is a hybrid. Even worse, a retro virus can multiply by the normal cell division process of the infected cell to make more virus cells directly. A normal virus makes the cell produce virus which then go and infect other cells. This is why the effects of a retro virus are sometimes not seen for many years... it take time for the infected cells to reproduce and multiply in numbers.

So you see the Covid-19 'vaccine' really is 'Gene Therapy'. It will hijack some number of your cells and will live on inside you for years and we don't know what is going to happen down the road years from now and that is why I think it is not safe... Again, we have never done a vaccine like this before... so much so that we should not even call it a 'vaccine'.

So you see the base assumption in my argument is NOT wrong. Presenting it this way allows for you to take the time to explain it properly because smug pseudo-intelectualls just can't help but trying to correct your "stupid anti-science, anti-vax theories." When you can actually back it up they are forced to think about it.

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Nigger if you think I'm reading your 500 word essay based on a faulty premise, you are sorely mistaken.

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Lol. Then you and your second grade reading comprehension are already lost

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I have been calling it an experimental gene therapy for months. This is a particularly good argument for people who are opposed to GMO foods.

I like to tell them that this treatment isn't a vaccine as it does not give you a small sample of the weakened virus, instead it modifies your DNA effectively making you a GMO. You trust president Trump and his administration to modify your DNA right?

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That's good to talk to Normies. I just want to bring it to your attention that germ theory a bigger HOAX than the Holocaust.

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Red Pills must be taken one at a time

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I agee unfortunately. I'm afraid that we're too far gone.... They've literally etched lies in stone. I'm doubting more every day that these lies will never be exposed.

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