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Government is a complexity-problem. The more complex an organization gets, the harder to manage it becomes. To reduce complexity, totalitarian communism becomes a necessity.

Human brains are not limitless when it comes to the complexity of problems they can understand and manage. However, the personal interests of everyone involved in the state leads to the state growing beyond what's manageable. That's the reason why you'll always end up with communism as long as you have any central government, which you'll inevitably have in any kind of nation-state.

IMHO the best thing that did not lead to communism in the long term was feudalism, where power was so highly decentralized, that basically every tiny village was it's own independent state, when there was no real lawmaker, everything became contractual, and then power was shared between many families of warlords with a strong tradition of being good warlords. However, even feudalism crumbled, when the warlords were killed off by the 100 years war in england and the 30 years war in continental europe. After that, central taxation was introduced to finance a professional military to get rid of the war-bands, and from then on communism was inevitable.

In any case, AI won't help you, because there is not enough computing-power in the world to manage any central government in an efficient way. There also is not enough data to train it with, and the dataset you have is deficient. You'll only end up with AIs that fail to work, if you go down that route, even if you turn every single watt you can get from the whole sun into computing power.

People do not understand what complexity is. Trying to solve a complex problem is like you trying to wipe out Corona-Chan by spraying around with a little bottle of disinfectant. All an AI could to is finding some patterns you didn't see, but this doesn't help at all. Besides, you'd probably end up in total tyranny, if you go down the AI route, because total tyranny would at least slightly reduce the complexity of the problem, and make things more manageable, and then we're back at communism. However, since it's AI-generated communism, you'd get a kind of communism you understand even less when compared to human-created communism, and you'd probably view stalinism as the good old times when things were wholesome and comfy.

Government is a complexity-problem. The more complex an organization gets, the harder to manage it becomes. To reduce complexity, totalitarian communism becomes a necessity. Human brains are not limitless when it comes to the complexity of problems they can understand and manage. However, the personal interests of everyone involved in the state leads to the state growing beyond what's manageable. That's the reason why you'll always end up with communism as long as you have any central government, which you'll inevitably have in any kind of nation-state. IMHO the best thing that did not lead to communism in the long term was feudalism, where power was so highly decentralized, that basically every tiny village was it's own independent state, when there was no real lawmaker, everything became contractual, and then power was shared between many families of warlords with a strong tradition of being good warlords. However, even feudalism crumbled, when the warlords were killed off by the 100 years war in england and the 30 years war in continental europe. After that, central taxation was introduced to finance a professional military to get rid of the war-bands, and from then on communism was inevitable. In any case, AI won't help you, because there is not enough computing-power in the world to manage any central government in an efficient way. There also is not enough data to train it with, and the dataset you have is deficient. You'll only end up with AIs that fail to work, if you go down that route, even if you turn every single watt you can get from the whole sun into computing power. People do not understand what complexity is. Trying to solve a complex problem is like you trying to wipe out Corona-Chan by spraying around with a little bottle of disinfectant. All an AI could to is finding some patterns you didn't see, but this doesn't help at all. Besides, you'd probably end up in total tyranny, if you go down the AI route, because total tyranny would at least slightly reduce the complexity of the problem, and make things more manageable, and then we're back at communism. However, since it's AI-generated communism, you'd get a kind of communism you understand even less when compared to human-created communism, and you'd probably view stalinism as the good old times when things were wholesome and comfy.

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Thanks for the reply, but I have to disagree.

If a single human being can work out that stealing money from people to give to others will be abused, then a tracking bot that flags up people who are undermining the system, would be beneficial.

The ai doesn't need to be amazing, at all, it just needs to check a LOT of basic math, and it'll be transparent enough to function x100 the government.

If fb/amazon can track people across multiple sites, listen to your conversations, compile phone records, and activate your web cams just to sell you some more random shit I think we could manage to do some good with it instead.

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You lack understanding of how amazon/facebook tracks people. It's actually rather easy to prevent. Just deactivate cookies and javascript, and use tor. Of course this breaks 90% of all sites you'll visit, and gives you loads of impossible captchas made up by google.

This tracking-stuff really is more of a global conspiracy than a technological achievement. You have a few services that provide services to almost all sites in the internet, that require those sites to install a few cookies and run a few scripts in your browser, which then identify you when accessing that partner-sites. Sites agree to doing that, because otherwise they won't get views. And of course disabling this functionality breaks most of the internet.

It's basically what the state does when it gives you an ID, and requires you to show this ID whenever you buy something, so that this transaction can be recorded in a centralized database. That's basically what the banking sector does with regards to anti-money-laundering. It's actually pretty dumb, and works only because people act as global conspirators either because they're forced to or because they're too stupid to understand what they're doing.

AI also doesn't do math. Neural networks are good in recognizing patterns, which has nothing to do with math, and is all about having huge sets of high quality data to train your models.

Besides, the most beneficial thing anyone can do for society in general would be to hang any and all politicians, state-employees and state-profiteers, and return to warlords and feudalism. No AI or great system of any kind is needed for that, and it's inevitable in the long run, because at some point we'll be too degenerated on a genetical level to muster the intelligence necessary for the upkeep of what now is considered to be an advanced society. So better embrace the downfall, so that you'll end up with high-tech feudalism, instead of first degenerating into mere niggers. I mean assuming, that you don't want to live in an animalistic world. Which would also have its upsides. In an animalistic world you could become like , which also has its upsides.

P.S. Everyone should watch the video of General Butt-Naked. Do it now, it will enlighten you.

You lack understanding of how amazon/facebook tracks people. It's actually rather easy to prevent. Just deactivate cookies and javascript, and use tor. Of course this breaks 90% of all sites you'll visit, and gives you loads of impossible captchas made up by google. This tracking-stuff really is more of a global conspiracy than a technological achievement. You have a few services that provide services to almost all sites in the internet, that require those sites to install a few cookies and run a few scripts in your browser, which then identify you when accessing that partner-sites. Sites agree to doing that, because otherwise they won't get views. And of course disabling this functionality breaks most of the internet. It's basically what the state does when it gives you an ID, and requires you to show this ID whenever you buy something, so that this transaction can be recorded in a centralized database. That's basically what the banking sector does with regards to anti-money-laundering. It's actually pretty dumb, and works only because people act as global conspirators either because they're forced to or because they're too stupid to understand what they're doing. AI also doesn't do math. Neural networks are good in recognizing patterns, which has nothing to do with math, and is all about having huge sets of high quality data to train your models. Besides, the most beneficial thing anyone can do for society in general would be to hang any and all politicians, state-employees and state-profiteers, and return to warlords and feudalism. No AI or great system of any kind is needed for that, and it's inevitable in the long run, because at some point we'll be too degenerated on a genetical level to muster the intelligence necessary for the upkeep of what now is considered to be an advanced society. So better embrace the downfall, so that you'll end up with high-tech feudalism, instead of first degenerating into mere niggers. I mean assuming, that you don't want to live in an animalistic world. Which would also have its upsides. In an animalistic world you could become like [General Butt-Naked](https://www.bitchute.com/video/dfz4Eiz5cDg/), which also has its upsides. P.S. Everyone should watch the video of General Butt-Naked. Do it now, it will enlighten you.

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