From the bit I have talked with you and what I have seen you post you are not stupid. You most likely understand that we achieved this on our own through our turmoil. I am talking about the people who praise god for every little thing we do without realizing there is a separation through human achievement and a creator.
Our achievements are our own to the extent that the greatest gift i believe we have is free will, we can choose what we want to do and we are responsible for it good or bad and everything in between. I’d like to think most people who believe understand that but then again most who “believe” what ever faith they have or choose most don’t even read the literature.
Interesting. You are an IT man. Would you create flawed software/hardware and then give it free will? Seems silly to me.
Well two things on that one I don’t believe we are flawed in the way that most Christians do. I also don’t generally accept the eternal punishment part for human beings. I think it’s much more likely a system we either don’t or can’t understand. Honestly I don’t have it all worked out I wish I did, but I think the people going around acting as if they have perfect knowledge of this thousands of years old text is ludicrou. My understanding from everything I’ve studied and I know many would disagree with me but it is the oldest record man has, I’ve seen arguments about the epic of Gilgamesh and all that but in general it appears to borrow from the Old Testament, and the whole Tower of Babel thing I could go on and on and probably just look like a raving lunatic but it’s what I choose to believe and I don’t ask anyone else to believe.
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