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If there are schools of judaism where the talmud is not approved, why isn't it the case, that these things could be discussed? If jews allowed "anti-semitism" (a.k.a. speech) to the extent that the jewish question could be discussed (like, "are you going to practice that part of your religion where you enslave us all regarding us as non-human?"), it perhaps could be solved through discussion. The problem is, that jews don't allow the discussion of the jewish question, leading to a situation comparable to jews creating their own worst enemy.

I mean, sometimes I think that if all jews were practicing their religion instead of expressing their jewishness through bolshevism and other hazardous channels, they could be alright. But things like the talmud make this complicated.

[–] [deleted] 9 pts

I think the bigger issue here is that we allow the jews to tell us what we are and are not allowed to discuss.

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Obviously. But my point is that they are un-co-operative. Like, imagine you went to an individual jew and attempted to start discussing this stuff, how would that situation end up?

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Messianic Jews are Jews who accept Christ as messiah. They are not Jews, if what they claim is true. They are confused. Perhaps it's just a way to emphasize what they consider the import of their ethnic Jewish component, but again, if they have faith in the Christ, then this is still anathema to their own claims.

There are no practicing Jews who do disregard the Talmud. Rabbinic Judaism is Judaism. The mistaken idea many people in the West have, if they even know about the Talmud, is that Israeli Jews simply study Torah.

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I see. Thank you for clearing that up.

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The Jews you are talking about are not religious Jews per se. It's like Rabbinic Judaism is a sort of factory indoctrinating the more aware Jews into a way to twist logic and turn thoughts inside out to twist lies into truth and truth into lies. They come out of these forms of education and do great harm in the world. In a way, the style of thinking is quite similar to liberal logic.

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While intra and inter-group factions and groupings do have a bearing, the overriding factor is ethnicity and race.

Meaning that when it comes down to the line, anyone not brainfucked will defer to their inherent groups (read: Religion is not as important as ethnicity).