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It's not just theology. It's not high society or high academe. It's a place to talk, question, argue, wax poetically, or angrily, about God.

There doesn't seem to be a very general place to do this on Poal. Of course, there's s/Theology, but I don't want this place to be limited to only theology.

I'm interested in the intersection between our Western culture, the Christian faith, and the attack on it. I want people to get engaged with the spiritual significance of this, and find that this is a place to question God, or proclaim your faith, or talk about how faith and virtue are improving your life, or cry out in desperation because your life feels like it's Hell.

What it isn't is just another place to post about Jews or politics. If you want to bring up the JQ or current political events, you need to find a way to make it relevant to God and the spiritual battle.

If you aren't a Christian and you want to have discussions about how your beliefs relate to Christianity? By all means, bring it into the fray.

If you are an atheist or agnostic and you have legitimate questions, doubts, concerns...put them on the table. All that we ask is you don't be an ass. Arguments are fun if you agree on the terms and respect them.

If you've got things going on in your life, and you wonder if a Christian perspective might be interesting, ask it. If you want to talk about the end of the world, go for it. Just remember what we're there for.

It's not just theology. It's not high society or high academe. It's a place to talk, question, argue, wax poetically, or angrily, about God. There doesn't seem to be a very general place to do this on Poal. Of course, there's s/Theology, but I don't want this place to be limited to only theology. I'm interested in the intersection between our Western culture, the Christian faith, and the attack on it. I want people to get engaged with the spiritual significance of this, and find that this is a place to question God, or proclaim your faith, or talk about how faith and virtue are improving your life, or cry out in desperation because your life feels like it's Hell. What it isn't is just another place to post about Jews or politics. If you want to bring up the JQ or current political events, you need to find a way to make it relevant to God and the spiritual battle. If you aren't a Christian and you want to have discussions about how your beliefs relate to Christianity? By all means, bring it into the fray. If you are an atheist or agnostic and you have legitimate questions, doubts, concerns...put them on the table. All that we ask is you don't be an ass. Arguments are fun if you agree on the terms and respect them. If you've got things going on in your life, and you wonder if a Christian perspective might be interesting, ask it. If you want to talk about the end of the world, go for it. Just remember what we're there for.

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This is insightful. What it is to know, in the human sense, is an imperfect act necessarily. The act of intellection is always with respect to The Other, whatever that thing in the world is which I think I know something about. For example, a chair. How am I situated with respect to the reality when I think I know something about that chair? Perfect knowledge of any thing just is identification with that thing. Therefore, the only possible true knowledge that one can have in the world would be self-knowledge, as the Delphic Oracle tells us in the Greek tradition: "Know thyself", which was also recapitulated in the Matrix series with respect to the path of The One. The message is that realizing you are The One is a matter of knowing that you are.

That said, we must distinguish between possibilities for the intellective process of knowing oneself. There is the psychological sense in which I know myself, and which I would take to include things like personal identity. Both this and deeper means of knowing ourselves are still fundamentally an expression of Logos - it is The One thing referring to itself in this localized human experience, so that separation still exists in the intellect. It's obvious that this is true, for we can say that in meditation, for example, that we are thinking about our self. That intentionality still assumes separation.

This is where the concept of gnosis enters the picture, which is a purer reach of intellect that transcends the world and points toward the source, that is, from whence you actually derive. But this kind of knowing is a function of grace. It cannot be achieved, in my estimation, from even the deepest meditation - but we might think that meditation represents a pathway wherein one's striving and exaltation of sensory-death could bring upon him the grace of gnosis. So too do we think that great suffering and self-rejection is likely to attract said grace, hence the reason for so many of the great spiritualists and prophets to have denied the body and pushed themselves to the brink of intentional suffering.

The significance of Christ, as I see it, was that Christ is a channel for this gnosis. Christ is the ultimate grace because by way of the Passion and the piercing of the veil, gnosis became accessible to all without the covenantal requirements of sacrifice. Belief in and thought about Christ, meditation on the image of Christ and the imitation thereof opens a divine channel to man's intellect, which by way of grace, can cause the intellect to see beyond the veil, to transcend the bare nakedness of the Self-Other distinction and to realize a fundamental unity at the point of the source.

It's too much to get into here, but I don't believe that this gnosis is all that we are to achieve here. I think it is one half of the mystery. After all, we're here. There is a reason we are here, and that reason is not simply to achieve gnosis, but to further mankind's descent into the emanation and elaboration of God into existence. This is one of my primary criticisms of the Buddhist tradition.

So, equipped with gnosis, we gain the understanding that serves as the foundation for our faith to bear our cross, to suffer as if we were suffering (like Christ) for all the iniquities of every man and to continue through our own example to be channels for that spirit to open others up to gnosis - so on and so forth, generation by generation, as the creation continues to develop and become realized.

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