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It's not just theology. It's not high society or high academe. It's a place to talk, question, argue, wax poetically, or angrily, about God.

There doesn't seem to be a very general place to do this on Poal. Of course, there's s/Theology, but I don't want this place to be limited to only theology.

I'm interested in the intersection between our Western culture, the Christian faith, and the attack on it. I want people to get engaged with the spiritual significance of this, and find that this is a place to question God, or proclaim your faith, or talk about how faith and virtue are improving your life, or cry out in desperation because your life feels like it's Hell.

What it isn't is just another place to post about Jews or politics. If you want to bring up the JQ or current political events, you need to find a way to make it relevant to God and the spiritual battle.

If you aren't a Christian and you want to have discussions about how your beliefs relate to Christianity? By all means, bring it into the fray.

If you are an atheist or agnostic and you have legitimate questions, doubts, concerns...put them on the table. All that we ask is you don't be an ass. Arguments are fun if you agree on the terms and respect them.

If you've got things going on in your life, and you wonder if a Christian perspective might be interesting, ask it. If you want to talk about the end of the world, go for it. Just remember what we're there for.

It's not just theology. It's not high society or high academe. It's a place to talk, question, argue, wax poetically, or angrily, about God. There doesn't seem to be a very general place to do this on Poal. Of course, there's s/Theology, but I don't want this place to be limited to only theology. I'm interested in the intersection between our Western culture, the Christian faith, and the attack on it. I want people to get engaged with the spiritual significance of this, and find that this is a place to question God, or proclaim your faith, or talk about how faith and virtue are improving your life, or cry out in desperation because your life feels like it's Hell. What it isn't is just another place to post about Jews or politics. If you want to bring up the JQ or current political events, you need to find a way to make it relevant to God and the spiritual battle. If you aren't a Christian and you want to have discussions about how your beliefs relate to Christianity? By all means, bring it into the fray. If you are an atheist or agnostic and you have legitimate questions, doubts, concerns...put them on the table. All that we ask is you don't be an ass. Arguments are fun if you agree on the terms and respect them. If you've got things going on in your life, and you wonder if a Christian perspective might be interesting, ask it. If you want to talk about the end of the world, go for it. Just remember what we're there for.

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That's a very interesting analysis of the pyramid and the all-seeing eye.

I tend to agree with you completely that the bottom two vertices are representative of the dialectic, conceptually.

Where I'd likely deviate from your model is at the point of distinguishing between 'value' and 'truth' as the so-called poles of the dialectic. I tend to think that the hyper-reality you discuss in (2) is inseparable from the externalization of value-pursuit onto the object (money). To me, these are the pyramid and represent the least necessary conditions for establishing the control structure itself.

I take the dialectic to consist in all possible moral distinctions across which humans could be made to antagonize each other. The political Left and Right construct is a good example. It's a matter of creating categories from the condensation of certain moral attachments and pitting these against their antithesis.

Once the conflict becomes a reality in the mind of the enslaved individual, the reality of the construct is confirmed. A person is led to the real belief that they are 'free' inside of the hyper-reality so long as they believe that they 'own' a particular identity, per their categorized moral attachments. That fight will now take place within the established hierarchy per the rules and categories given by the dialectic. The false-value, say, of money becomes the proxy for truth/success that leads people into, or embeds them more deeply in, the control structure.

I consider the eye to be the mind, or god, which emerges from out of this process - something like a collective spirit presiding over the hyper reality and which represents not only the source of its power, but the sum total of ideals that either 'side' is actually pursuing, despite having their own individual and particular notions about their gods or ideology. Put another way, the god which is the eye is the concealed set of ideals (the concealed god) that both the Left and the Right are pursuing when they are caught in this structure.

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No one has mentioned Horus yet? I know @Chiro alluded to this by referencing Egypt, but I thought that's what @AnarchyMage was getting at when he pointed out that it wasn't always a Masonic symbol.

Also, @AnarchyMage used Gnostic in its derogatory sense, referencing the heresy; but there is a true sense of Gnosis - but it is not man knowing, but God knowing - man knowing as united with God.

@Chiro pinged @KingOfWhiteAmerica because he used "hyper reality" in a sentence ;)

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Dude, sometimes it feels so good to use certain terms when the opportunity arises. It's like that word is sitting in your brain waiting for some release. Hyper-reality is one of these sexy terms. You wanna get published, boy? Start saying 'hyper reality'. They're gonna love ya, kid.

@KingOfWhiteAmerica @AnarchyMage

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