"We Are Not Alone": US Has Retrieved Craft Of 'Non-Human Origin' Says Whistleblower From Govt. Task Force On UFOs | "The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles..."

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"We Are Not Alone": US Has Retrieved Craft Of 'Non-Human Origin' Says Whistleblower From Govt. Task Force On UFOs | "The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles..." (www.zerohedge.com)

>A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin. -The Debrief

>The whistleblower, 36-year-old David Charles Grusch, is a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan who went on to work at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Ageny (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) - where he served as the latter's representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. Then from late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force, which was established to investigate UFOs - which are now officially called "unidentified anomalous phenomena," or UAP. It was launched the Navy under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, and has since been reorganized into the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which includes investigations of objects which operate underwater.

>According to the The Debrief; The recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. "We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities," said Grusch. "The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles." According to analysis, the objects are "of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures." UFO "legacy programs" have long been concealed within "multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities." Gorsuch told Congress of the existence of a decades-long "publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages." [M]aterials from objects of non-human origin are in the possession of highly secret black programs (the classified locations, names and other specific data of which were provided to the Inspector General and intel committee staff). According to an unclassified version of his whistleblower complaint, Grusch has direct knowledge that UAP-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from Congress by "elements" of the intelligence community "to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program."

>"The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone," Grey continued. " Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States. This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us."

>There's a lot more in the report. We recommend hopping over and reading it in its entirety https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

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>>A former intelligence official turned whistleblower has given Congress and the Intelligence Community Inspector General extensive classified information about deeply covert programs that he says possess retrieved intact and partially intact craft of non-human origin. -The Debrief >>The whistleblower, 36-year-old David Charles Grusch, is a decorated former combat officer in Afghanistan who went on to work at the National Geospatial-Intelligence Ageny (NGA) and the National Reconnaissance Office (NRO) - where he served as the latter's representative to the Unidentified Aerial Phenomena Task Force from 2019-2021. Then from late 2021 to July 2022, he was the NGA’s co-lead for UAP analysis and its representative to the task force, which was established to investigate UFOs - which are now officially called "unidentified anomalous phenomena," or UAP. It was launched the Navy under the Office of the Under Secretary of Defense for Intelligence and Security, and has since been reorganized into the All-Domain Anomaly Resolution Office, which includes investigations of objects which operate underwater. >>According to the The Debrief; The recoveries of partial fragments through and up to intact vehicles have been made for decades through the present day by the government, its allies, and defense contractors. "We are not talking about prosaic origins or identities," said Grusch. "The material includes intact and partially intact vehicles." According to analysis, the objects are "of exotic origin (non-human intelligence, whether extraterrestrial or unknown origin) based on the vehicle morphologies and material science testing and the possession of unique atomic arrangements and radiological signatures." UFO "legacy programs" have long been concealed within "multiple agencies nesting UAP activities in conventional secret access programs without appropriate reporting to various oversight authorities." Gorsuch told Congress of the existence of a decades-long "publicly unknown Cold War for recovered and exploited physical material – a competition with near-peer adversaries over the years to identify UAP crashes/landings and retrieve the material for exploitation/reverse engineering to garner asymmetric national defense advantages." [M]aterials from objects of non-human origin are in the possession of highly secret black programs (the classified locations, names and other specific data of which were provided to the Inspector General and intel committee staff). According to an unclassified version of his whistleblower complaint, Grusch has direct knowledge that UAP-related classified information has been withheld and/or concealed from Congress by "elements" of the intelligence community "to purposely and intentionally thwart legitimate Congressional oversight of the UAP Program." >>"The non-human intelligence phenomenon is real. We are not alone," Grey continued. "**Retrievals of this kind are not limited to the United States.** This is a global phenomenon, and yet a global solution continues to elude us." >>There's a lot more in the report. We recommend hopping over and reading it in its entirety https://thedebrief.org/intelligence-officials-say-u-s-has-retrieved-non-human-craft/

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I sure hope a one world global gooberment will keep me safe from teh alienboogermen

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Fake and gay or true but still gay.

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https://youtu.be/vPpANhYwojY?t=115

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Read you 5x5. Over.(yewtu.be)

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I believe aliens must exist out there. But I don't know physically how they would reach us even if they wanted to and somehow knew we were here. The universe is expanding quickly, and the reason all our planets aren't swamped by light from all the stars is because it's expanding faster than the light can reach us.

Now what is fun to think about is secret technology and advanced civilizations hiding amongst us on this planet. Maybe it's as simple as our countries secretly developing technology. "alien abductions" might just be us abducting ourselves. Maybe we already invented gravity beams. Maybe there's more going on in Antarctica than we thought. What if it's not all an icy wasteland, or what if we learned how to terra form an icy wasteland into livable space and workable land?

In any case, UFOs don't have to have anything to do with aliens. While it's not impossible for aliens to be here, it's very unlikely. It would be more likely a non human advanced sentient race is hiding amongst us with high tech.

But this is just for fun speculation

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From the comments:

” So, just to be clear - These recovered craft are advanced, exotic, powerful and robust enough to travel vast distances across interstellar space at speeds high enough, or through self created artificial wormhole jumps short enough, not to negatively impact the lifespans of their occupants.

Yet, miraculously, as soon as they enter earths atmosphere, the pilot is overcome by a desire to drive like an earthling Asian, and crash.

Right.”

But in all seriousness, I don’t believe they are “aliens” in the sense that they are from another planet or galaxy.

If anything, they’re inter dimensional…and yet another way to say it would be that they are demonic.

Little known fact: both Allen Hynek and Jacque Voilet (not sure how the Frenchy’s name is actually spelled) also both concluded that they are demonic.

Jesus talks of the “great deception” in revelations, and says that it will be deceptive enough to fool “even the very elect”.

I believe that this is what it’s all really about.

The thing about demonic entities is that they are rarely, if ever, honest about who are they or what their intentions are. Biblically speaking, satan’s primary MO is deception. It’s been that way from the very beginning. And yet, for some reason, we have a large number of humans who will take them at face value..from the woman at the fortune teller who believes it’s her “dead grandmother” to the space junky who really wants it to be aliens.

My prediction is that it’s a deception/psyop where they will claim it’s aliens. There are many reasons for the NWO to do this as it checks virtually all of their boxes in one fail swoop.

1) many people would lose spiritual faith if they were to believe aliens are real. I wouldn’t, but many would. And just like that, monotheistic, biblical faith is dealt a mighty blow as many turn from faith. Make no mistake, Christianity is the primary foe of the luciferian/NWO types.

2) this would be the only possible cover for a rapture of the faithful that still denies the biblical account and the mission of Christ. Ie, “they weren’t raptured by Jesus, they were abducted by aliens!”

3) what a convenient excuse to implement a one world government: Ie, “to protect ourselves, we must unite!” They very “fate of civilization” will be weighed against the risk of state sovereignty and the inherent freedom it begets. We all know which of the two will win that battle with a population even more brainwashed and retarded than it currently is.

The whole thing is a psyop. The crafts and “creatures” may very well be real, but they ain’t from “another planet”.

Remember, satan has built tech and fooled around with creative genetics before: it’s the reason that God flooded the earth. “Only one family (Noah’s) was pure in its generations (genetics).” There was all sorts of weird hybridization going on back then. To the point that only one family on the planet was 100% human stock by the time the flood came. All of those centaurs and goat men depictions in Greek lore were real at one time: before the flood. It was all a satanic concoction. Same with dinosaurs and the giants back then. God wasn’t having any of it. And btw sidebar: that’s who the demonic entities are…spirits of the deceased hybrids, killed in the flood. “Earthbound spirits”. They don’t qualify for a one way ticket to heaven or hell because they aren’t exactly human. They will end up in the latter eventually..but for now, they roam the earth. “Reptilian aliens”…satan depicted as a “serpent” in the biblical account. They were denied their kingdom under Nimrod. But, working with certain humans, they are attempting to get it back. Those at the top of the luciferian power structure know all of this, they are the demonic’s assets in this realm.

And then the tech Nimrod was building which caused God to confuse the languages. It wasn’t a literal tower that would reach the heavens, it was tech to communicate with the spiritual realm.

The NWO seeks to achieve what Nimrod was trying to achieve. He was the first mason, after all.

The “alien deception” is the latest iteration of the same thing.

Give me a break..a “whistleblower” comes forward now? No. He was SENT. They’ve been slowly making the disclosure, this is just one more step in the process. It’s all planned.

Don’t fall for it.

Or do.

Just know you were warned.

For those of you who want to talk shit to me about this, that’s fine. Because one day both you and I are going to find out the truth. If I’m right, however, and you end up on the wrong side, it’ll be your biggest regret.

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From the comments: *” So, just to be clear - These recovered craft are advanced, exotic, powerful and robust enough to travel vast distances across interstellar space at speeds high enough, or through self created artificial wormhole jumps short enough, not to negatively impact the lifespans of their occupants.* *Yet, miraculously, as soon as they enter earths atmosphere, the pilot is overcome by a desire to drive like an earthling Asian, and crash.* *Right.”* But in all seriousness, I don’t believe they are “aliens” in the sense that they are from another planet or galaxy. If anything, they’re inter dimensional…and yet another way to say it would be that they are demonic. Little known fact: both Allen Hynek and Jacque Voilet (not sure how the Frenchy’s name is actually spelled) also both concluded that they are demonic. Jesus talks of the “great deception” in revelations, and says that it will be deceptive enough to fool “even the very elect”. I believe that this is what it’s all really about. The thing about demonic entities is that they are rarely, if ever, honest about who are they or what their intentions are. Biblically speaking, satan’s primary MO is deception. It’s been that way from the very beginning. And yet, for some reason, we have a large number of humans who will take them at face value..from the woman at the fortune teller who believes it’s her “dead grandmother” to the space junky who really wants it to be aliens. My prediction is that it’s a deception/psyop where they will claim it’s aliens. There are many reasons for the NWO to do this as it checks virtually all of their boxes in one fail swoop. 1) many people would lose spiritual faith if they were to believe aliens are real. I wouldn’t, but many would. And just like that, monotheistic, biblical faith is dealt a mighty blow as many turn from faith. Make no mistake, Christianity is the primary foe of the luciferian/NWO types. 2) this would be the only possible cover for a rapture of the faithful that still denies the biblical account and the mission of Christ. Ie, “they weren’t raptured by Jesus, they were abducted by aliens!” 3) what a convenient excuse to implement a one world government: Ie, “to protect ourselves, we must unite!” They very “fate of civilization” will be weighed against the risk of state sovereignty and the inherent freedom it begets. We all know which of the two will win that battle with a population even more brainwashed and retarded than it currently is. The whole thing is a psyop. The crafts and “creatures” may very well be real, but they ain’t from “another planet”. Remember, satan has built tech and fooled around with creative genetics before: it’s the reason that God flooded the earth. “Only one family (Noah’s) was pure in its generations (genetics).” There was all sorts of weird hybridization going on back then. To the point that only one family on the planet was 100% human stock by the time the flood came. All of those centaurs and goat men depictions in Greek lore were real at one time: before the flood. It was all a satanic concoction. Same with dinosaurs and the giants back then. God wasn’t having any of it. And btw sidebar: that’s who the demonic entities are…spirits of the deceased hybrids, killed in the flood. “Earthbound spirits”. They don’t qualify for a one way ticket to heaven or hell because they aren’t exactly human. They will end up in the latter eventually..but for now, they roam the earth. “Reptilian aliens”…satan depicted as a “serpent” in the biblical account. They were denied their kingdom under Nimrod. But, working with certain humans, they are attempting to get it back. Those at the top of the luciferian power structure know all of this, they are the demonic’s assets in this realm. And then the tech Nimrod was building which caused God to confuse the languages. It wasn’t a literal tower that would reach the heavens, it was tech to communicate with the spiritual realm. The NWO seeks to achieve what Nimrod was trying to achieve. He was the first mason, after all. The “alien deception” is the latest iteration of the same thing. Give me a break..a “whistleblower” comes forward now? No. He was SENT. They’ve been slowly making the disclosure, this is just one more step in the process. It’s all planned. Don’t fall for it. Or do. Just know you were warned. For those of you who want to talk shit to me about this, that’s fine. Because one day both you and I are going to find out the truth. If I’m right, however, and you end up on the wrong side, it’ll be your biggest regret.

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According to Jacques Vallee, human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.1 Vallee posits that UFOs and related phenomena are the means through which man's concepts are being rearranged. Their ultimate source may be unknowable, but they are presenting us with continually recurring "absurd" messages and appearances that defy rational analysis but address human beings on the level of myth and imagination. Vallee does not mean that some higher order of beings has locked us inside the constraints of a space-bound jail, closely monitored by psychic entities we might call angels or demons. Powered by Brave AI

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread994659/pg1

"Okay, now on to the "control system" as excerpted from a Jerome Clark interview with Jacques Vallee originally published in FATE Magazine, 1978"

An engineer observing a computer would want to look at the back and open up the boxes. He would want to take a probe and examine the different parts of the computer. But there is another way of looking at it; the way of the programmer, who wants to sit in front of the computer and analyze what it does, not how it does it. That's my approach. I want to ask it questions and see what answers I get. I want to interact with it as an information entity.

"Whenever Dr. Vallee talks about that aspect, he gets intentionally vague. He does mention the "social aspect." He also talks about the witnesses and experiencers. With that in mind we continue:"

There are different kinds of control systems - open ones and closed ones - and there are tests you can apply to them to find out what kind of control system you're inside. That leads to a number of experiments you can do with the UFO phenomenon…  ...The control system concept can be tested by a small group of people - you don't need a large organization or a lot of equipment - and you can start thinking about active intervention in the phenomenon. I hesitate to be too specific. I'm speaking, as I'm sure you understand, of the attempted manipulation of UFO manifestations. It's a pretty tall order.

" Why does Vallee hesitate to be "too specific?" "

We're assuming that there is a feedback mechanism involved in the operations of the control system; if you change the information that's carried back to that system, you might be able to infiltrate it through its own feedback.

"So, What is Doc Jock getting at? Has the "control system" theory been tested?"

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>According to Jacques Vallee, human beings are under the control of a strange force that bends them in absurd ways, forcing them to play a role in a bizarre game of deception.1 Vallee posits that UFOs and related phenomena are the means through which man's concepts are being rearranged. Their ultimate source may be unknowable, but they are presenting us with continually recurring "absurd" messages and appearances that defy rational analysis but address human beings on the level of myth and imagination. Vallee does not mean that some higher order of beings has locked us inside the constraints of a space-bound jail, closely monitored by psychic entities we might call angels or demons. Powered by Brave AI https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread994659/pg1 "Okay, now on to the "control system" as excerpted from a Jerome Clark interview with Jacques Vallee originally published in FATE Magazine, 1978" >An engineer observing a computer would want to look at the back and open up the boxes. He would want to take a probe and examine the different parts of the computer. But there is another way of looking at it; the way of the programmer, who wants to sit in front of the computer and analyze what it does, not how it does it. That's my approach. I want to ask it questions and see what answers I get. I want to interact with it as an information entity. "Whenever Dr. Vallee talks about that aspect, he gets intentionally vague. He does mention the "social aspect." He also talks about the witnesses and experiencers. With that in mind we continue:" >There are different kinds of control systems - open ones and closed ones - and there are tests you can apply to them to find out what kind of control system you're inside. That leads to a number of experiments you can do with the UFO phenomenon…  ...The control system concept can be tested by a small group of people - you don't need a large organization or a lot of equipment - and you can start thinking about active intervention in the phenomenon. I hesitate to be too specific. I'm speaking, as I'm sure you understand, of the attempted manipulation of UFO manifestations. It's a pretty tall order. " Why does Vallee hesitate to be "too specific?" " >We're assuming that there is a feedback mechanism involved in the operations of the control system; if you change the information that's carried back to that system, you might be able to infiltrate it through its own feedback. "So, What is Doc Jock getting at? Has the "control system" theory been tested?"

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Ehhh just because you didn’t find the quote doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. By the same token, I can’t find it either lol. I heard he said it second-hand anyhow.

In any case, and regardless of whatever Frenchy happens to believe, I believe they’re demonic and part of the same game satan’s been playing since the beginning.

It’s all good though, because it ends with Christ winning.

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I've never fully understood what he meant exactly by "control system". It feels like his investigation led him to the conclusion that there's a mass manipulation of the highest order at play when it comes to UFOs, that isn't necessarily organized by something out of this world or "paranormal".

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I believe that Flying Saucers exist.

They might be piloted by aliens or by advanced human cultures that matured before the last Ice Age (Atlantis or whoever the hell).

This disclosure thing feels funny to me though.

I don't think the government is going to tell us anything really juicy. I don't buy the blue beam scenario. I don't think they'll release fusion energy or let us buy a ticket to the Moon on an anti gravity bus.

I think it's all about Russia and China. They were supposed to be good little boys for GloboHomo. Just a gas station and a labor camp factory site with low wages. They've gotten all upity and gone nationalist though and now the WEF DC Davos faggots are panicking.

I think this theater is all for Putin and Xi.

You better be good or we'll use the FLYING SAUCER DEATH RAYS ON YOU!!!

Just when the dollar starts to die and BRICS gets brave then all the UFO crap starts. What a coincidence.

I think it's probably all a bluff though (or mostly a bluff). They probably do have a crashed Flying saucer but I doubt they reverse engineered much technology from it.

I mean Da Vinci imagined a helicopter in the 1500s or something but what if you gave him one and told him to copy it?

Da Vinci doesn't know how to refine aluminum. He doesn't understand the gas laws that govern engines. He doesn't understand aerodynamic equations. He can't refine jet fuel from crude oil. He doesn't even know how to build an oil rig. He doesn't know what an engine lathe is, what a milling machine is, how to build them, how to power them (either with an electric motor or even a steam engine) or how to make steel strong enough to make their components.

There's way way too much prerequisite knowledge to just fucking copy something many scientific and technological revolutions ahead of you.

What's worse is that the defense contractors probably haven't even made a serious effort in reverse engineering the saucers.

They probably got trillions to do it then gave a small portion to a few nerds working under impossible security conditions. They probably used the rest of the cash for big houses, yachts, and under age hookers.

Now Russia is blowing up all their armaments in Ukraine with hypersonic missiles and.... there's no response but to bluff.

I hope all the cocaine and sex parties were with it.

Anyhow my prediction is that Russia and China call the bluff. Clown World loses Ukraine and Taiwan and then suddenly all the UFO stuff gets shoved back under the rug like it never happened.

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I believe that Flying Saucers exist. They might be piloted by aliens or by advanced human cultures that matured before the last Ice Age (Atlantis or whoever the hell). This disclosure thing feels funny to me though. I don't think the government is going to tell us anything really juicy. I don't buy the blue beam scenario. I don't think they'll release fusion energy or let us buy a ticket to the Moon on an anti gravity bus. I think it's all about Russia and China. They were supposed to be good little boys for GloboHomo. Just a gas station and a labor camp factory site with low wages. They've gotten all upity and gone nationalist though and now the WEF DC Davos faggots are panicking. I think this theater is all for Putin and Xi. >You better be good or we'll use the FLYING SAUCER DEATH RAYS ON YOU!!! Just when the dollar starts to die and BRICS gets brave then all the UFO crap starts. What a coincidence. I think it's probably all a bluff though (or mostly a bluff). They probably do have a crashed Flying saucer but I doubt they reverse engineered much technology from it. I mean Da Vinci imagined a helicopter in the 1500s or something but what if you gave him one and told him to copy it? Da Vinci doesn't know how to refine aluminum. He doesn't understand the gas laws that govern engines. He doesn't understand aerodynamic equations. He can't refine jet fuel from crude oil. He doesn't even know how to build an oil rig. He doesn't know what an engine lathe is, what a milling machine is, how to build them, how to power them (either with an electric motor or even a steam engine) or how to make steel strong enough to make their components. There's way way too much prerequisite knowledge to just fucking copy something many scientific and technological revolutions ahead of you. What's worse is that the defense contractors probably haven't even made a serious effort in reverse engineering the saucers. They probably got trillions to do it then gave a small portion to a few nerds working under impossible security conditions. They probably used the rest of the cash for big houses, yachts, and under age hookers. Now Russia is blowing up all their armaments in Ukraine with hypersonic missiles and.... there's no response but to bluff. I hope all the cocaine and sex parties were with it. Anyhow my prediction is that Russia and China call the bluff. Clown World loses Ukraine and Taiwan and then suddenly all the UFO stuff gets shoved back under the rug like it never happened.

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>They might be piloted by aliens or by advanced human cultures that matured before the last Ice Age (Atlantis or whoever the hell).

Could be interstellar exploration drones too, time traveling drones, the us from the future... Could be a bit of all that and the above, who knows...

>This disclosure thing feels funny to me though.

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>A limited hangout is a propaganda tactic used in media relations, perception management, politics, and information management. It involves revealing a selected portion of a scandal, criminal act, sensitive or classified information without telling the whole story. The intention may be to establish credibility as a critic of something or somebody by engaging in criticism while in fact covering up for them by omitting many details, to distance oneself publicly from something using innocuous or vague criticism even when one's own sympathies are privately with them, or to divert public attention away from a more heinous act by leaking information about something less heinous. The tactic originated as a technique in the espionage trade and is a favorite and frequently used gimmick of the clandestine professionals. When it's no longer possible to sustain a phony cover story, dangle some partial truths in public and acknowledge some small, albeit honest, miscues to keep the most damning parts of the truth under wraps. The term "limited hangout" is also the name of a mysterious website that has haunted the edges of the integrative and meta-sensemaking communities for several years.

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