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I am at such state of disbelief about anything what I see in news, that even if there would be video of aliens landing on earth , coming out of their ship and greeting people, I wouldn't believe this until I had seen it with my own eyes.

It is really a burden to not trust anything coming from officials (politicians, MSM, scientists, experts, analysts). Life was much more easier when I was going with the flow of mainstream.

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Yeah, thanks jew for ruining even this

riuning economy was not enough

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Even going off of technology that is known to exist publicly and not involving technologies suspected or indirectly known to exist in secret corporation/government projects, I am still doubtful even when viewing something naturally, in person, with my own eyes depending on the nature of what I am witnessing.

Scenario:

  • Numerous spacecraft appearing all around the world in the sky aired on all of the 'news' channels.
  • Internet is flooded with recordings from people's phones apparently from all around the world because each video has the voice on it speaking a different language, some male some female, some young and some old, as well as some being day recordings and some night recordings to account for people on the opposite side of the planet where it is night time also seeing and recording them.

I would call it a psyop - just bullshit CGI videos with scripted actors, especially if the voice/people in the videos appear to be a carefully selected "diverse" range of demographics of age/sex/language to hit specific target groups of viewers to instruct them how they should also react to what is shown and heard in the video. Like how a TV show had a laugh track to tell morons that something was a joke and that they should be laughing and how that evolved into the 'leading' style used in The Office of focusing in on a character that represents a target demographic to show their reaction to what just happened or was said so that the viewer of that same group is told how they are also supposed to react to it. That change in leading from a laugh track to visually showing how one should feel about what they just saw coincides with the timing of the internet being flooded with 'Reaction' videos (movie trailer reactions, opening new game system reactions, jumpscare video reactions, etc.) that are used for conditioning, dictating and reinforcing desired behavior.

If I could step out of my front door and see one in the sky myself, I would still call it bullshit holograms/projections/light manipulation, etc. If it doesn't land in front of me and I can visually see its effects on the surrounding terrain (maybe wind, scorching, impressions in the Earth, reflections on surfaces and whether it is also visible in reflections on my windows), or even be able to touch it myself - nope.


Another scenario:

  • The population on one side of the planet can see a large object approach (asteroid, etc.) and crash into the Moon, causing it to be visually damaged with debris scattered into orbit around it.
  • The other side of Earth who had daytime when it occurred would see recordings of it and then see its after-effects themselves later on when it is night time for them.

I'd have little initial doubt in this instance, but I would still have a little. Whether or not my doubt would drop to none or grow to be very suspicious would depend whether everything about it continues to add up and occur as would be expected (do surface effects persist and develop as would be expected; does the ejecta behave as would be expected and after the proper time for it to reach Earth, does the material affect satellites and also cause 'shooting stars'; etc.).


If it is digital in nature I immediately doubt it. If it is in person but I cannot physically interact with it, I doubt it. If it is in person but far enough away (the Moon) to where I would not expect it to be feasible to generate and maintain a persistent illusion, I tentatively accept it as real but doubt of some degree is a possibility depending on circumstances.

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I would call it a psyop - just bullshit CGI videos with scripted actors,

No joke I have seen the same over the desert of AZ about a decade ago. Only one band of rotating lights. Notice how one side dims out and another appears on the other side? I saw that shit go across the horizon. Light blink out, new one blink in. Honestly this video is the best version of this which I have seen in other videos.

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For clarity sake, that part of my statement that you quoted out of context was in relation to the scenario I outlined immediately above it, not to the video in the OP.

I believe life -intelligent and not- exists in abundance in the universe. I also believe intelligent life has interacted with our planet for a very, very long time.

I've witnessed a craft of the triangular form several decades ago that came in quickly, stopped 50 feet overhead briefly before altering is direction and heading off quickly to disappear in the distance mere moments later. Was that craft created and controlled by humans or non-humans? I do not and cannot know.

I suspect much of what we see that is regarded as 'unidentified' or 'unexplained' is a combination of some having a human source as well as some with a non-human source. In the instances involving a human source, I suspect a combination of both 'private' and government projects of local and foreign governments conducting various operations in each other's airspace - permitted by the other or not.


Related to that, this was a very good and very informative read:

Adversary Drones Are Spying On The U.S. And The Pentagon Acts Like They're UFOs

As ardvarcus notes on that thread:

"Drones are part of the equation. So are balloons. But if you take away drones and balloons, along with hoaxes, hysteria, and misidentification, there are still UFOs that defy the laws of physics."

Though I would add "... that defy the laws of physics as we are told they are and as taught by our kiked scientific institutions and entirely based on the lies and falsehoods of kikes like Einstein."


In the instances involving a non-human source, I have ideas on their potential origins, but I also suspect not all originate from a single, extraterrestrial source/species. Considering the topic of stories and myths of subterranean civilizations throughout history, some which have evidence to support that they did exist at one time in the past and possibly still do today, I suspect there is a possibility that phenomena reported throughout time up to today could be a combination of both non-terrestrial and sub-terrestrial origins.

And that is without getting into and considering the potential of any of the additional proposed explanations for some of the phenomena; e.g. spiritual beings, dimensional beings, etc.

I can reach conclusions based on the information available, but I and almost the entirety of the world simply do not know and cannot know the ultimate truth on this subject primarily due to the efforts of those in power who control the truth of this information not wanting any of us to know. Until they no longer exist or until they no longer have power or control over the information, I do not think any of us will truly know what the truth of this and other related subjects is.

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Seems to be a common movement phenomenon seen in UFO's.

I would conjecture that an Einstein Rosen method of exiting the physical universe is in play here.

Without an Einstein Rosen method of FTL, interstellar travel is simply not tenable (two generations+ of travel to our nearest neighbor).

With Einstein Rosen, its a couple weeks with moderate propulsion ability. (No inertia limiter or FTL rules due to being outside 'physical' dimension).

I saw this effect first hand during the mass sighting in Indiana in the early 90's. Watched several squarish looking shuttle ships "jump" at least 1500 meters. Had about a <3 second pause between jumps. Last jump is was hovering directly above the car and seemed to be sliding on the atmosphere. No downdraft. Cyclical sounding hum. My gf was driving. She was freaking out a little, started peeling us out of there.

Saw it at about 20 feet distance for a few seconds. Looked like a star trek shuttle honestly. Rectangular shape, squarish edging. No wings.

Can't remember driving home. Just remember getting to my pops house and walking in with jenny. We didn't say a thing, but my parents came running up and thought we had been in an accident, we were pretty pale pop said.

-Ex 11b, air assault. Been in a lot of choppers, and planes. What I saw was neither.

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So. How did things turn out with your gf?

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She has cognitive dissonance regarding the whole incident. Claims it was a helicopter. Won't talk about it.

She wasn't the brightest bulb, and quite naive actually. I think she became a stripper for awhile.. Yeah..

Anyways, I did a lot of research in to UFO's. Listen, they've been here a long time. Black knight. Mj12. Nordic sirius aliens and greys. -All true.

You want UFO proof? Go check out the crop circles. Expulsion cavities. Microwave level directed energy.

Thats the lithmus test for a real crop circle as well. Yes, they do fake ones for disinfo.

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Here's my take.

I don't care. I have no skin in the game. Aliens are here. Aliens are not here. Makes no difference to me as there is nothing I can do.

Satan worshipping religious cult having conquered the entire world? That matters to me and I'm reacting as best as I can.

Did you ever meet a gf worthy of committing to?

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When you factor in the fact that these Nordic UFO pilots (and they’re biological robotic slave race, the Grays) are capable of time travel, then yes they’ve been here for a really long ass time. Think back to hundreds of millions of year old Martian civilizations (to avoid altering the Earth timeline until Mars was devastated by two warring factions), and the ancient civilization of Atlantis. There’s been an ongoing conflict between the “Traditionalists” and the “Futurists” millions of years. The Jews are merely pawns of the Nordics.

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Looks like a reflection to me. The disappearing light on the left, reappear on the right might be due to layers on the reflecting surface and that surface shifting/moving. I'll watch again. Rewatched. Still looks like reflections. Multi layered reflecting surface slowly tipping and rotating till out of position to reflect. Lights fade in rank and number till out of position. Makes sense in my head.

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I agree. Looks like someone is filming through a window, moving strings of Christmas lights (or similiar) around so that they "dissappear". The "formation" is because they are attached to something to keep them in line.

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Looks to be spinning. A new light keeps appearing on the right, one after another

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"I don't know what it is" means it's unidentified. not necessarily extra terrestrial.

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I guess it might be a glowing balloon

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UFO expert here. I can confirm, that's some weird shit.

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Good.. It's probably alot less painful to die from a disintegration ray than starvation.

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Do people not know what drones are or what they can do?

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Those certainly aren’t fucking drones lmgdao did you even watch the video? It shows the flying objects disappearing at one end of the line and reappearing at the opposite end. Unless drones can now teleport then no, they’re not drones.

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They are flying in formation and turning their lights on or of depending on position. Like this (youtube.com)

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They're a good bit above your average drone's range. Guess they could be some military or other high-tech type of drone.

Really no other explanation, though. Either aliens doing some weird shit, or drones doing some weird shit.

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