It's the US govt. They're always lying about so much it's hard to discern what they're lying about. It was actually the National Socialists that first propagandized their citizens w/ UFO stories. Operation paperclip... we bring a bunch of nazi scientists and propagandists over and they do the same thing. I do believe and hope alien life exists but I'm not sold on the notion of alien visitation and anal probes.
So the US govt lies about everything, and they brought over Nazis to help them lie at NASA.
But, they're totally telling the truth about landing on the moon. And we can't ever go back because they've "lost" the technology.
Take a step back and consider that. Is it possible the whole thing is a fat lie? Yes. So, then why do you believe that the lying US govt is actually honest about this one thing?
Something to consider.
When scientific and engineering knowledge falls backwards, you lose the ability to do things you were once able to do. Aerotech has essentially been stalled for the past 50 years. Don't be surprised to see it fall apart as there is a loss of the ability to sustain it, let alone advance it.
If your position is so profoundly insightful why do you have to purposely lie and misrepresent everything about it?
Why are you suddenly pushing this idiocy? What's the agenda? It's clearly not truth seeking.
It's clearly not truth seeking.
You are wrong about that. My agenda is the truth. Ask questions. I am not intentionally misrepresenting anything.
and tell me these guys are being honest.
Believe what you will.
I'm sure they're lying about something. Nasa actually was caught faking footage for 'promotional purposes' or some such shit. I'm just trying (probably poorly) to regurgitate my understanding of the shit as it was explained to me. The russians lost a crew that went up b4 Gargarin b/c they depressurized and cooked alive on reentry. They hid it for decades. The capsule landed but all were dead. I won't pretend like I know 'the truth'. I do know there are retroflectors on the moon however and you can literally buy a laser powerful enough these days to test it.
https://www.nasa.gov/mission_pages/LRO/multimedia/lroimages/lroc-20100413-apollo15-LRRR.html
https://www.nasa.gov/image-feature/retroreflectors-from-apollo-to-mars
they use them for calculating distance and orbital path of the moon.
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