The roths are as jewish as they come unless you want to make the argument that the tribe of Judah aren't jews and were cast out of the 12 tribes that disseminated from the caucus mountains after the geologic event and bottleneck that occurred. But that's a whole other story. What everyone calls jews now are definitely tribal and in control of the various world and national governments.
See, you even know where I'm going. But, still, I wouldn't say "jew". Many say Khazars here, but Canaanites or Phoenicians are probably the closest. It helps to be exact because undoing all of the damage caused by the obscurers will take some time. Either way, correctly defining groups and not using arguments like this to derail conversation (like you're doing, unknowingly or otherwise) is a good aim.
By the way, it wasn't twelve. It was thirteen. It's always twelve plus one.
Maybe it would help to know the ones we're calling "Rothschild" aren't, in fact, apart of any group mentioned thus far. It's said they "came after the cataclysm". I could say more here, but I'll refrain. Regardless, calling them "jewish" is a silly thing to do.
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