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[–] 18 pts

Yeah, the shilling and fedposting was one of the reasons I gave voat a wide berth towards the end.
You can see them active on poal and the whole fedposting thing is so ridiculous these days. Any self aware white or white nationalist with an IQ above ‘negro’ is more than aware that fedposting is nothing more than catnip for alphabet glowniggers and their confidential informants.

Fuck assholes like him.

[–] 31 pts

We've got quite a predicament here don't we? To me, Tallest was just a walking black pill. Now, consider the logic of someone who thinks this way (the same sentiments are voiced here constantly in variously more politically correct ways).

Tallest saw no possibility for amicable, legal, or political solutions to our current issue.

What is logically left over after all of those possibilities are exhausted? Answer: talking about things that got him banned.

Eventually, when the rubber meets the road, these things must be discussed, no? But, nobody wants to get the site shut down.

So look at the predicament we find ourselves in: your only option is to sit around and bitch about the same subjects. Over and over and over for years. A new outrage occurs, and the same tired points get echoed, and everybody is able to vent some steam and get on through their day.

This is why sites like this exist. It's containment: a virtual space for the expression of things that are systematically being censored elsewhere. You concentrate your enemy's hostility into specific domains with specific modes of expression. We are technically precluded from discussing solutions - we are only ever able to complain. To shout our opinions. To repeat things we repeated on Voat for six years.

  1. New thing happens, even worse than the last time

  2. "I'm really mad now!"

  3. New thing happens, even worse than the last time

  4. "Things are getting really out of hand now!"

Tallest just got sick of the larping and insisted in his own belligerent ways that we stop pretending. I don't think it was wrong that he was banned. I can't blame admin for it. But what it points out is a symptom of the fundamental problem.

[–] 4 pts

Sites like poal are nothing but catharsis.

If anyone thinks people here are changing the world, that's some dank hopium

[–] 8 pts (edited )

I've changed almost everyone around me. I'm not alone.

There is far more going on than you give credit.

[–] 2 pts

I'm selling my properties and getting off grid. I know others doing the same thing because of sites like this and people like Owen benjamin. I'm truly surprised they have not shut Owen down considering how many white babies have been produced directly because or his repilling and truth telling

HERE COMES A SHILL

Owen benjamin is 1/8th jew he is a hypocrite and gay and drinks when he said he quit. (((Whatever else they will make up they hate him because he is promoting pro white alternatives)))

[–] 0 pt

Ideas spread no matter what.

[–] 3 pts

theres a difference between action and circle jerking. he was a jerk in a circle. you wanna do some IRL shit name the time and place and let the people proximal to you gather

[–] 3 pts

name the time and place

Yes, do the one thing that would make the legal difference between protected free speech and a criminal threat. Great idea.

Actual fedposting or just retarded?

[–] 2 pts

This is a very low IQ position.

We are a catalyst. Our job is to take normies from being bluepilled to redpilled when the time is right. The abject failure of Trump was a perfect opportunity. As are the situations with Kyle, Floyd and this latest snackbar shooter in Colorado. When the normie starts to notice something is rotten, that's the time to jump in and put all the pieces in place. Kyle is no different than Fields, Scarsella, Zimmerman, etc. Floyd is no different than all the bullshit in Furgeson, it's all been played out by anti-white media that hates you.

When they ask why these people hate us and want us dead, that's when you explain it's the jews. It's always the jews. Point to Trump's cabinet. Bidens.

When they get black pilled that's when you tell them how to regain power. Through organization. And yes, it's 100% a racial head count now, so you have to organize around whiteness and around Christianity. Encourage them to form local political groups. Join their local PTA. Do the kinds of things the Proud Fags and Qtards were starting to do, but explain why those groups failed.

It's not us who will be on the front lines of whatever change happens. It'll be the normalfags who are just learning it's the jews. In the last few years I've pushed everyone I know IRL several steps to the right. They've gone from "those poor mexicans, doing the jobs we wont do" to fed posting about how to deal with "immigrants" so they never bother us again. This is why you're here. This is why you've been studying these problems for months or years.

[–] 1 pt

When they ask why these people hate us and want us dead, that's when you explain it's the jews. It's always the jews. Point to Trump's cabinet. Bidens.

Man, I have known the Jews pretend to be us for a long time, but I did not remember how it was like being a guy who think they are just like us. People can't believe "they" want us dead because they think it us running the show.

We are going to be the officers, not the frontline troops.

Too few understand this. Think bigger than the battles to be fought by those who follow us. Our job is to make sure those battles are not fought for nothing.

Every few years It's a new Kyle a new Trump, and whole new younger generation of bright eyes and bushy tailed "conspiracy theorists" full of hope and belief they are going to expose it all and finally hold evil to account.

We just got closer than we're ever going to get and they squashed us with simple gaslighting.

They had never been more exposed, but they swatted us aside like annoying insects.

[–] 0 pt

>This is a very low IQ position.

Haha

>It's not us who will be on the front lines of whatever change happens.

Ah, so you're just the mentor of the would-be fighters. This is such a poorly conceived argument that you've made. So, what, the flash point happens when? When you've gotten a certain number of normies red-pilled? Or when they're all red-pilled?

You've been red-pilling for half-a-decade and things have continued to decline. I'm not dismantling the value of transforming someone's psychology, rather, I'm pointing out how inefficacious a lot of philosophy is without action. This all begins long before us. People have been 'noticing' for decades, but the sequestration of the discussion has witnessed the growth of dissident pockets of people that never do a goddamn thing. Nobody is sacrificing anything.

They're biding their time waiting for that Goldilocks level of red-pilling, comforting themselves with little charts about how Hitler had such and such a % of support from the German people in year 193X.

I don't think you've sufficiently integrated the way that any of this works. I suggest you recall the interview with Yuri Bezmenov. This program of indoctrination cannot be overcome - in those who are susceptible - by information, whether it's factual or satirical or whatever. The point is that there is a large part of the population for whom the process of demoralization is complete. Many of those who are not complete NPCs are compelled into acquiescence for the singular reason that their entire way of living is married to the financial system.

What are you waiting for? If you are the one responsible for the red-pilling, then who is designated to take action? You're passing the buck onto some vague future class of red-pilled power reclaimers. Who passed the memo on to them? When is the right number? When is the flashpoint?

If you haven't started any kind of meaningful action with your red-pilling during the entire descent that has been the last five years, or so, then what leads you to believe it will suddenly make the water boil? During whatever time you think will intervene between now and then, how much more will the stranglehold tighten to preclude your ability to organize?

I mean, are you fucking serious at this point, with the 'we'll just clean this all up by organizing some protests and local political representation!'?

[–] 1 pt

As much as I would love to live in the internet of the early 2000’s, we don’t. This isn’t even the internet of 2016.

If you are either a white nationalist / sympathizer or even anything to the right of the most milquetoast Fox News tier conservatard you HAVE to consider yourself a dissident.
Normal rules and protections of the law do not exist for you. Your ‘freedoms / rights’ can and will be removed at a whim and ANYTHING you say online will be used against you should you step into the crosshairs of ZOG.

You can go on for days about how fucked this is but the plain fact remains that one meme or post can be the difference between you being released without charge and you sitting in solitary confinement for 400 years.

This new era does not need idiots who hand ZOG a propaganda win on a plate. ZOG wants us all crammed into isolated sites posting dumb shit that they can print out and use when they want to dangle another white man out to publicly destroy.
Stop making it so fucking easy for them.

[–] 3 pts

You're like a prisoner of war saying, 'Don't speak. We avoid beatings that way.' So, you avoid the beating. Now what? You're still in a cell.

I'm not even disagreeing with your main thrust here. I made it clear in my first comment that I wasn't deriding the ban. I understand it. However, at no point have I 'made it easier for them.' I stated explicitly that admins are exhibiting a duty to protect the website they run. But what does the site exist for?

That was the question I was framing in my comment. Does it exist as (another user pointed out) a form of catharsis for us to gather 'round the cooler and bitch? Or does the conversation at the site take an object outside of the boundaries of the site, i.e. we care about the things we are discussing beyond just making our opinions known? At some point we need to acknowledge that all we've done for years now is run on a hamster wheel.

I've become sick lately with the fact that things are continuing to get worse, and I only see the same shit-posting, complaining, and dart-throwing as I saw 5 years ago, while people pretend they're fighting a fucking meme war for the 'minds of the people'. That's what Tallest criticized. I'm not always in agreement with the way he did it (I wasn't aware he was utilizing alts). However, he isn't wrong. I do admonish him for his usual attitude/mood - a person can be black-pilled without being a hopeless, bleak sack of shit.

[–] 1 pt

You are right, as usual, but the site admins have to ban in some cases, sadly. Real 'free speech' is an illusion.

[–] 5 pts

Real 'free speech' is an illusion.

It's not a question of free speech.

He violated the ToS on several occasions and that's what got him banned.

[–] 3 pts

but the site admins have to ban in some cases, sadly

No, they really don't. Hosting a public forum is not an endorsement of all, or any, views expressed in it. As long as they ban nobody, they're not responsible for what anyone says. But, the moment they decided to ban the first person, because they didn't like what he said, they accepted responsibility for what everyone says.

It's the same story as everywhere else. Once you start censoring, there's no going back. You'll have to keep censoring. Little by little. More and more. Until all that's left is brain-dead noise, so bland and shapeless that nobody can take offense at it.

You are 100% correct. Also I'm reading tons of comments about TS and his supposed calls to violence violating the ToS. Did we all forget Twitter, Facebook, and Reddit continue to allow and in some cases encourages users to promote calls to violence as long as it's directed towards Whites and Christians.

[–] 1 pt

What do you mean by fedposting exactly?

[–] 4 pts

Low key trying to get people to shoot up random jews and shit like that like that'd actually change anything.

[–] 3 pts

Ah, gotcha. Yeah, lonewolf stuff to feed the press.