If you are open to discuss, I would be happy to discuss. My original post had all the information that you need, I would be happy to expand on it as you like.
1) Science is a process that measures things at ever increasing resolutions. THAT IS ALL SCIENCE IS.
2) Science cannot deal with the concept of consciousness BECAUSE SCIENCE ONLY DEALS WITH THINGS YOU CAN MEASURE. That is very important. Science cannot do anything about consciousness until you can figure out a way to measure consciousness. If consciousness has a size, science can measure it. If consciousness has weight it can measure it. If consciousness has quantum effects that we can test experimentally science will allow us to devise methodology for testing for the quantum effects which will include processes for error correction so that we can know that what we measured we actually measured.
3) When we say keep your woo bullshit out of science, what me mean is, you can come up with any idea that you want. What you believe is up to you. If you want to believe that rocks are spirit kind and that your people were begot by a raven go ahead. If you want to believe a pebble on a beach has consciousness go ahead. If you want to believe that we are merely recursive functions of the universal construct looking in on it self, fine.
But, if you cannot measure it, it isn't science.
Come up with a way to measure it, do the scientific test and collect your millions in nobel prizes.
Until then, your believe in consciousness is no better than my belief that Baba Yaga is real.
The real problem here isn't science or even me dismising things like consciousness. I neither dismiss consciousness the way that I don't dismiss the idea that gods exist. The real problem is the absolutely DERANGED need that you people need to take things that cannot be measured (woo) and stuff it into science (things that can be measured).
Can't get further than one.
Science isn't a process. Science encompasses many things.
The process. The act of performing the process Checks on process is followed. Funding making the act of science possible. Source of funding. The people doing the acts. The translation of science into normie speak. Humanity itself. Biases. Prejudices. Preconceptions. Laziness. Greed etc. Peer pressure. Dara interpretation which is subjective.
Science is nothing but a figment of your imagination. A concept. Without all of the above.
Look at your response. You heard something that clearly emotionally upset you so you rejected everything.
Two is also bullshit. Einstein theories were accepted and acted upon had existed for decades. Hell much of a century. Before they were measured.
So in summary of your bs excuse. You don't know what conscious is but you reject it being more than just what can exist within brains because reasons you failed to list but believe in enough to get angry when questioned.
Here is a fact about science you've ignored to support your bs rules.
Science is is observation based. If we observe the effect of gravity or conscious then we must accept that it exists.
We act upon knowledge of both even though our knowledge lacks full understanding.
So this Ted talker asking questions is exactly the first steps that must be taken to progress knowledge. Your dogma entrenched kind is anti science no different to what galio encountered.
"I don't know how to measure how or why the earth circles the sun I just observe that it does"
Which BTW was the main reason why he was imprisoned. He could not explain his OBSERVATIONS. Guess what though? The earth did orbit the sun.
>Science is is observation based. If we observe the effect of gravity or conscious then we must accept that it exists.
Well, we are publicly OBSERVING you post proof that you neither understand what most of those words mean nor now what science is.
Therefore, it must be true.
Lazy response dye to an emotional wall blocking you from enlightenment.
You sir are no sentient. Just one of billions of preprogrammed primitive animals.
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