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The two most misunderstood technologies discussed on the internet are Teslas wydencliff tower and stanley meyers hydrogen production system from water. Here is what people get completely wrong.

Teslas tower was NOT made to broadcast energy up into the AIR. It was meant to broadcast energy DOWN into the EARTH . The mushroom shaped top was made to PREVENT leakage of energy into the air. If he wanted to broadcast into the AIR he would have used a pointed antenna.

Energy carries in the EARTH for huge distances if broadcast at the right frequencies and can be tapped with a simple grounding rod anywhere on the planet. It doesn't carry far in the AIR. Everyone doing Tesla coils showing large sparks in the air are using them in an unintended way only for show.

Stanley Myers hydrogen production system from water is NOT electrolysis. That uses amps to create hydrogen and wastes huge amounts of energy in water with electrolyte like salt added to it.

Meyer's system uses NO electrolyte and depends on the water remaining as a non conducting INSULATOR in the tuned circuit and uses bouncing voltage to build up a high voltage which pulses the water molecule to shatter it like a high frequency sound can shatter a crystal wine glass. This uses MUCH less energy than electrolysis. If you EVER see anyone adding salt or any other electrolyte to a supposed Stanley Myers watercell demonstration they are doing EXACTLY the wrong thing and no nothing about the circuit.

Furthermore the Myers circuit MUST have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecules breakdown. If it doesn't have a diode the voltage in the step up circuit won't build up as the cycling positive and negative voltage simply cancel each other out.

And the Myers court case he lost had NOTHING to do with the validity of the circuit or hydrogen production. It was a claim by an investor that Myers promised some FINANCIAL things they said he didn't deliver. It didn't not judge the technology at all.

If anyone says Meyers circuit can't work because electrolysis...just stop right there. They don't know anything. If they ever add salt or anything to the water...again..stop right there. They know nothing.

Best and most revealing Stan meyer lecture

Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s

Part 2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EyYBy9UF648

This is part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43zdSjKLyk

Part4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSZoEOfko8w

The two most misunderstood technologies discussed on the internet are Teslas wydencliff tower and stanley meyers hydrogen production system from water. Here is what people get completely wrong. Teslas tower was NOT made to broadcast energy up into the AIR. It was meant to broadcast energy DOWN into the EARTH . The mushroom shaped top was made to PREVENT leakage of energy into the air. If he wanted to broadcast into the AIR he would have used a pointed antenna. Energy carries in the EARTH for huge distances if broadcast at the right frequencies and can be tapped with a simple grounding rod anywhere on the planet. It doesn't carry far in the AIR. Everyone doing Tesla coils showing large sparks in the air are using them in an unintended way only for show. Stanley Myers hydrogen production system from water is NOT electrolysis. That uses amps to create hydrogen and wastes huge amounts of energy in water with electrolyte like salt added to it. Meyer's system uses NO electrolyte and depends on the water remaining as a non conducting INSULATOR in the tuned circuit and uses bouncing voltage to build up a high voltage which pulses the water molecule to shatter it like a high frequency sound can shatter a crystal wine glass. This uses MUCH less energy than electrolysis. If you EVER see anyone adding salt or any other electrolyte to a supposed Stanley Myers watercell demonstration they are doing EXACTLY the wrong thing and no nothing about the circuit. Furthermore the Myers circuit MUST have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecules breakdown. If it doesn't have a diode the voltage in the step up circuit won't build up as the cycling positive and negative voltage simply cancel each other out. And the Myers court case he lost had NOTHING to do with the validity of the circuit or hydrogen production. It was a claim by an investor that Myers promised some FINANCIAL things they said he didn't deliver. It didn't not judge the technology at all. If anyone says Meyers circuit can't work because electrolysis...just stop right there. They don't know anything. If they ever add salt or anything to the water...again..stop right there. They know nothing. Best and most revealing Stan meyer lecture Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s Part 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EyYBy9UF648 This is part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43zdSjKLyk Part4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSZoEOfko8w

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[–] [deleted] 4 pts

The Meyers water fuel cell is bullshit. It has nothing to do with electrolysis; the problem is it violates the laws of thermodynamics.

>Furthermore the Myers circuit MUST have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecules breakdown. If it doesn't have a diode the voltage in the step up circuit won't build up as the cycling positive and negative voltage simply cancel each other out.

Nothing in this statement is grounded(haha) in reality. I started my career as an electronic engineer and designed circuits for 10 years. I'm not going to pick it all apart but I'll just say that diodes don't work in the way described. I don't know anything about the case, or why who lost what, but I do know that this isn't how electronics work, and perpetual energy isn't possible.

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Build a standard radio tank circuit with an old school coil and capacitor.

Now feed it a constant supply of energy pulses via a transformer linked to the coil as a primary and secondary.

Now put a diode in the tank circuit.

The voltage on the capacitor will continue to rise to exceed the original input because the diode does not let the voltage leak backward. This is the step up circuit. Now if water with no electrolyte is the dielectric in the capacitor between the two metal plates (or tubes which Meyer's preferred to use) then eventually the water will break down into hydrogen and oxygen at much less power than if it was a standard electrolysis system.

Its not perpetual motion. Its releasing stored energy in the water molecule in an efficient way and leaving it in a state than can be recombined (burned) to release more.

Its not really different from oil cracking distillation processing leaving the oil in a more burnable form.

I'm just going to repeat that your explanation of the electronic circuits simply doesn't work. You don't toss a diode into a tank circuit and get a step-up amplifier. A tank circuit is for modulating frequency.

What it looks like to me, is Meyers threw a bunch of flashy words together, drew up some designs, got himself a patent, and started selling hard to investors. That's what you have to do. And you have to ignore and deny all scrutiny and dissent. You sell hard and fast and never show weakness. Look at Theranos, they have hundreds of patents and sold their ideas to BIG NAME, supposedly genius investors. And it was absolute bullshit. Based entirely on one convincing persons word.

You know how I know this tech is bullshit? Because the patents on Meyers tech expired, and Elon Musk didn't start producing the tech. Because the fact is, is this technology would be revolutionary if it were possible. Blah blah the oil companies won't allow it...the person developing this tech wouldn't give a fuck. They would be the most rich and powerful people on the planet. If anything, it would be the energy production giants that would develop this tech, as it would bring them more profit, less input, and carbon neutrality, everything they need to thrive. Oil companies would be all over it. Not to eliminate it, but to dominate it.

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They sold the patents in a rather shady way to Xogen power for a massive amount of moneys.. They shelved it! Shareholders sued. Canadian courts ruled to company! Shareholders were bought out. Company Privatized. Executives got cushy canadian pol. jobs. Tech is now at Brilliant light power in trenton nj. (CIA, DS).

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You repeat the erroneous classic arguments that people who don't understand the circuit make.

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Diodes can be used to transform AC voltage into pulsating DC. Any Electronic Engineer should know this.

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Yes.

And in a tank circuit with a coil collapsing each pulse you get increasing voltage with no where to go but in the water.

Hurrdurr, no shit, that's not my issue with the statement. It's the "must have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecule breaks down" that has nothing to do with reality.

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This is actually the lecture explaining it. It explains the unique nuclear properties of the hydrogen in the water molecule and what is happening and why it isn't the law of thermodynamics.

Its really much more about freeing nuclear forces. Remember hydrogen is actually a basic nuclear primitive component or proton when in an electronless state.

Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s