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The two most misunderstood technologies discussed on the internet are Teslas wydencliff tower and stanley meyers hydrogen production system from water. Here is what people get completely wrong.

Teslas tower was NOT made to broadcast energy up into the AIR. It was meant to broadcast energy DOWN into the EARTH . The mushroom shaped top was made to PREVENT leakage of energy into the air. If he wanted to broadcast into the AIR he would have used a pointed antenna.

Energy carries in the EARTH for huge distances if broadcast at the right frequencies and can be tapped with a simple grounding rod anywhere on the planet. It doesn't carry far in the AIR. Everyone doing Tesla coils showing large sparks in the air are using them in an unintended way only for show.

Stanley Myers hydrogen production system from water is NOT electrolysis. That uses amps to create hydrogen and wastes huge amounts of energy in water with electrolyte like salt added to it.

Meyer's system uses NO electrolyte and depends on the water remaining as a non conducting INSULATOR in the tuned circuit and uses bouncing voltage to build up a high voltage which pulses the water molecule to shatter it like a high frequency sound can shatter a crystal wine glass. This uses MUCH less energy than electrolysis. If you EVER see anyone adding salt or any other electrolyte to a supposed Stanley Myers watercell demonstration they are doing EXACTLY the wrong thing and no nothing about the circuit.

Furthermore the Myers circuit MUST have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecules breakdown. If it doesn't have a diode the voltage in the step up circuit won't build up as the cycling positive and negative voltage simply cancel each other out.

And the Myers court case he lost had NOTHING to do with the validity of the circuit or hydrogen production. It was a claim by an investor that Myers promised some FINANCIAL things they said he didn't deliver. It didn't not judge the technology at all.

If anyone says Meyers circuit can't work because electrolysis...just stop right there. They don't know anything. If they ever add salt or anything to the water...again..stop right there. They know nothing.

Best and most revealing Stan meyer lecture

Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s

Part 2

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EyYBy9UF648

This is part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43zdSjKLyk

Part4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSZoEOfko8w

The two most misunderstood technologies discussed on the internet are Teslas wydencliff tower and stanley meyers hydrogen production system from water. Here is what people get completely wrong. Teslas tower was NOT made to broadcast energy up into the AIR. It was meant to broadcast energy DOWN into the EARTH . The mushroom shaped top was made to PREVENT leakage of energy into the air. If he wanted to broadcast into the AIR he would have used a pointed antenna. Energy carries in the EARTH for huge distances if broadcast at the right frequencies and can be tapped with a simple grounding rod anywhere on the planet. It doesn't carry far in the AIR. Everyone doing Tesla coils showing large sparks in the air are using them in an unintended way only for show. Stanley Myers hydrogen production system from water is NOT electrolysis. That uses amps to create hydrogen and wastes huge amounts of energy in water with electrolyte like salt added to it. Meyer's system uses NO electrolyte and depends on the water remaining as a non conducting INSULATOR in the tuned circuit and uses bouncing voltage to build up a high voltage which pulses the water molecule to shatter it like a high frequency sound can shatter a crystal wine glass. This uses MUCH less energy than electrolysis. If you EVER see anyone adding salt or any other electrolyte to a supposed Stanley Myers watercell demonstration they are doing EXACTLY the wrong thing and no nothing about the circuit. Furthermore the Myers circuit MUST have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecules breakdown. If it doesn't have a diode the voltage in the step up circuit won't build up as the cycling positive and negative voltage simply cancel each other out. And the Myers court case he lost had NOTHING to do with the validity of the circuit or hydrogen production. It was a claim by an investor that Myers promised some FINANCIAL things they said he didn't deliver. It didn't not judge the technology at all. If anyone says Meyers circuit can't work because electrolysis...just stop right there. They don't know anything. If they ever add salt or anything to the water...again..stop right there. They know nothing. Best and most revealing Stan meyer lecture Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s Part 2 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=EyYBy9UF648 This is part 3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P43zdSjKLyk Part4 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LSZoEOfko8w

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The Meyers water fuel cell is bullshit. It has nothing to do with electrolysis; the problem is it violates the laws of thermodynamics.

>Furthermore the Myers circuit MUST have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecules breakdown. If it doesn't have a diode the voltage in the step up circuit won't build up as the cycling positive and negative voltage simply cancel each other out.

Nothing in this statement is grounded(haha) in reality. I started my career as an electronic engineer and designed circuits for 10 years. I'm not going to pick it all apart but I'll just say that diodes don't work in the way described. I don't know anything about the case, or why who lost what, but I do know that this isn't how electronics work, and perpetual energy isn't possible.

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Build a standard radio tank circuit with an old school coil and capacitor.

Now feed it a constant supply of energy pulses via a transformer linked to the coil as a primary and secondary.

Now put a diode in the tank circuit.

The voltage on the capacitor will continue to rise to exceed the original input because the diode does not let the voltage leak backward. This is the step up circuit. Now if water with no electrolyte is the dielectric in the capacitor between the two metal plates (or tubes which Meyer's preferred to use) then eventually the water will break down into hydrogen and oxygen at much less power than if it was a standard electrolysis system.

Its not perpetual motion. Its releasing stored energy in the water molecule in an efficient way and leaving it in a state than can be recombined (burned) to release more.

Its not really different from oil cracking distillation processing leaving the oil in a more burnable form.

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I'm just going to repeat that your explanation of the electronic circuits simply doesn't work. You don't toss a diode into a tank circuit and get a step-up amplifier. A tank circuit is for modulating frequency.

What it looks like to me, is Meyers threw a bunch of flashy words together, drew up some designs, got himself a patent, and started selling hard to investors. That's what you have to do. And you have to ignore and deny all scrutiny and dissent. You sell hard and fast and never show weakness. Look at Theranos, they have hundreds of patents and sold their ideas to BIG NAME, supposedly genius investors. And it was absolute bullshit. Based entirely on one convincing persons word.

You know how I know this tech is bullshit? Because the patents on Meyers tech expired, and Elon Musk didn't start producing the tech. Because the fact is, is this technology would be revolutionary if it were possible. Blah blah the oil companies won't allow it...the person developing this tech wouldn't give a fuck. They would be the most rich and powerful people on the planet. If anything, it would be the energy production giants that would develop this tech, as it would bring them more profit, less input, and carbon neutrality, everything they need to thrive. Oil companies would be all over it. Not to eliminate it, but to dominate it.

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They sold the patents in a rather shady way to Xogen power for a massive amount of moneys.. They shelved it! Shareholders sued. Canadian courts ruled to company! Shareholders were bought out. Company Privatized. Executives got cushy canadian pol. jobs. Tech is now at Brilliant light power in trenton nj. (CIA, DS).

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You repeat the erroneous classic arguments that people who don't understand the circuit make.

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Diodes can be used to transform AC voltage into pulsating DC. Any Electronic Engineer should know this.

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Yes.

And in a tank circuit with a coil collapsing each pulse you get increasing voltage with no where to go but in the water.

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Hurrdurr, no shit, that's not my issue with the statement. It's the "must have a diode so the resulting unipolar voltage adds up and builds up until the water molecule breaks down" that has nothing to do with reality.

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This is actually the lecture explaining it. It explains the unique nuclear properties of the hydrogen in the water molecule and what is happening and why it isn't the law of thermodynamics.

Its really much more about freeing nuclear forces. Remember hydrogen is actually a basic nuclear primitive component or proton when in an electronless state.

Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s

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Energy carries in the EARTH for huge distances if broadcast at the right frequencies and can be tapped with a simple grounding rod anywhere on the planet.

grounding rod

If the Earth is at a higher potential energy than the ground state, what is the return path for the tapped off electricity? Sure voltages can flow from two energy potentials that are both higher than the ground state, but in the case of the "tap power from the Earth", you have a parasitic capacitance that couples to the ground state of the Earth itself which is not at ground potential. What will this parasitic capacitance couple to to create a return path for the electrons to flow? Tesla coils rely on this parasitic capacitance to couple to the primary coil or the Earth ground potential in order to flow electrons. Your explanation does not provide a circuit path.

Even radio broadcast relies on the parasitic capacitance or inductance to work. A radio receiver parasitically couples to the Earth ground potential to provide a return path for the electrons. Both the transmitter and receiver will couple to the Earth which is why you have losses in the broadcast signal when too many objects couple the energy in the air to the ground. This is how a Faraday cage works. Now given that knowledge, what does the energy directed into the Earth from a Wydencliff style transmitter use to complete a return path? Have you thought about this?

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Its been a while since I studied this but my recollection is Tesla was setting up a reverberating current that was in tune with the earths diameter (6 hz?) and the way it would be tapped was a person put a ground rod in and had a mushroom cap top and tapped the oscillating current from in between the cap and ground rod.

The purpose of the mushroom cap is to provide no need for two ends of the circuit. The mushroom cap acts like a terminator because its an oscillating energy.

Think of having a earth sized vibrating metal bell. If a person was on the other side and put a high density rubber pole against the bell he could tap the mechanical energy between the bell and the rubber rod.

Electrically the mushroom cap act like the rubber rod terminating the electrical oscillation at a different potential than the ground so the energy can be tapped in between.

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The purpose of the mushroom cap is to provide no need for two ends of the circuit.

Um, this makes no sense. The rod with its mushroom cap would be the entire circuit. It would literally be a useless circuit as you could not tap electricity off of it to do anything at all. Just because there is a high frequency "reverberation" (your words) does not make a difference. The rod and mushroom shaped end are a complete short circuit. Also, you said the mushroom cap on the transmitter was to focus the energy down into the Earth so how would a similar mushroom cap at the receiver do anything different?

Yeah, I think you're not understanding the technology either. Tesla gave us many practical and useful technologies such as the induction motor and fluorescent lighting, but not all of his inventions were useful or worked as history inaccurately describes them. He was a man not a god. People have exaggerated his works to elevate them to magic rather than science. I think Wydencliff is one of those exaggerations.

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No, it's pretty obvious your understanding of electricity is not complete. Electrical ground can be anything really. In this circuit it would be the air.

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The air becomes ground in the area surrounding the tower.

I've installed a few +50m towers with lightning rod grounding for remote access communications. I've seen how electricity arcs from the lightning rod cables to the copper ground banks we install at about a foot distance from each other before we solder them together in clear weather. That's just one lightning rod, imagine a larger surface area like the Wydencliff tower. There's huge amounts of electricity we could be pulling from the air.

If you could draw that into the ground at sufficient quantities you could use the ground to transmit electricity within a certain distance of the tower. The air would become the ground within the bubble area the tower creates.

Also, soil does not have a net 0 electrical charge, even if it acts as the ground for many applications. Soil has plenty of electrical activity and is the reason plants can absorb and move ions and cations into their roots. The electrical conductivity of soil is measured all over the agricultural world everyday and is used as a metric for soil health.

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Are you doing any experiments on Stanley Meyers work? I have been interested in this for years... great post!

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I studied them intensely for a while years ago.

Just makes me nuts when I see so many videos basically using tubes of steel but then adding salt to the water and having a simple dc or even ac current go through a transformer making gas and calling it a Meyer's system.

It will produce gas but using a lot of energy.

Meyer's system was a genius different system.

He basically built a tuned oscillating unipolar tank radio circuit and made the water be the dialectric in the capacitor. It was genius. A real breakthrough.

Its so sad to see idiots do it wrong and either say it doesn't work or it is a Meyer's system.

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Agreed. I believe he was able to harness resonant frequencies on a molecular and controlled basis. I should start some experiments up again...

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I did some years ago. It works. In fact its amazing how much hydrogen you can make just by hooking two stainless pipes inside each other separated by zip ties shoved between them (the perfect distance) and hooking one to each of two battery charger leads a d putting some salt in the water. That's not Meyer's system but it sure is easy to do and if you don't care about how much energy you use you can make tons of burnable and explosive gas (be very careful) without even building the circuit.

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You will like this Start with this one at the 20 minute mark https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fhs-XYuTIQw&t=1522s

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That was a great clip I don't think I've seen before... thanks!

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Its by far the best explanation by him fo what he is doing and shows him to be a master of the subject. Go to that channel and watch parts 2 3 and 4 of that lecture.

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From (((wikipedia)))

Tesla developed his own ideas on how a worldwide wireless system would work. He theorized from these experiments that if he injected electric current into the Earth at just the right frequency he could harness what he believed was the planet's own electrical charge and cause it to resonate at a frequency that would be amplified in "standing waves" that could be tapped anywhere on the planet to run devices or, through modulation, carry a signal. His system was based more on 19th century ideas of electrical conduction and telegraphy instead of the newer theories of air-borne electromagnetic waves, with an electrical charge being conducted through the ground and being returned through the air.

It wouldn't work all that well and there were people who had made "radio" equipment using ground waves but they were very limited in the distance they could transmit and receive.

Tesla's design used a concept of a charged conductive upper layer in the atmosphere,[6] a theory dating back to an 1872 idea for a proposed wireless power system by Mahlon Loomis. Tesla not only believed that he could use this layer as his return path in his electrical conduction system, but that the power flowing through it would make it glow, providing night time lighting for cities and shipping lanes.

He believed he had achieved Earth resonance which, according to his theory, would work at any distance.

Yeah, real new agey crackpot S H I T.

Do you know what would happen if someone put some systems like this online right now? ALL radio frequency devices would be inoperable. Think about that for a moment and remember that this was done before the vacuum tube was in regular use. Edison discovered those when developing the light bulb but did not take advantage of his discovery.

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I agree with (see below), the Tesla bifiliar coil is the key component to both Tesla’s Wardenclyffe Tower and Stanley Meyers’ Water Fuel Cell Generator. I'm still trying to fully understand it.

The first clear explanation of his bifiliar coil is Tesla patent 512,340 "Coil for Electro Magnets" details the invention. See here: Tesla Patent 512,340- “Coil for Electro Magnets” (https://web.archive.org/web/20100301170401/http://www.tfcbooks.com/patents/512340.htm)

Here are the key claims: • A coil for electric apparatus the adjacent convolutions of which form parts of the circuit between which there exists a potential difference sufficient to secure in the coil a capacity capable of neutralizing its self-induction, as hereinbefore described.

• A coil composed of contiguous or adjacent insulated conductors electrically connected in series and having a potential difference of such value as to give to the coil as a whole, a capacity sufficient to neutralize its self-induction, as set forth.

The Tesla bifiliar coil sure as hell sounds like a scalar/longitudinal wave generator. In other words he is generating a longitudinal wave in the ether.

Researcher Bahman Zohuri from University of New Mexico wrote an interesting article from 2020 on Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation and in it gives a decent, albeit general, description of Tesla's scalar waves, found here: Bahman Zohuri Transcranial Magnetic Stimulation for Depression- Sept 2020 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/344157447_Transcranial_and_Repetitive_Transcranial_Magnetic_Stimulation_Driving_a_Noninvasive_Depression_Treatmentpf6)

Start at the section entitled "7. Other Suggested Method of Non-invasive Treatment of Depression" Here are some key quotes: • "Longitudinal waves are known as compression waves." • "Existence of this wave is nothing new and it was discovered and experimentally was demonstrated by Nikola Tesla and was patented on January 9, 1894 under patent number No. 512,340 with concept of Coil for Electro-Magnets" • "Tesla referred to “scalar energy” as “radiant energy” • "This wave is capable of supporting significant effects including carrying information and inducing higher levels of cellular energy" • “Technically speaking, scalar electromagnetic waves have magnitude but no direction, since they are imagined to be the result of two electromagnetic waves that are 180 degrees out of phase with one another, which leads to both signals being canceled out. This results in a kind of “pressure wave”. • Some general properties of scalar waves (of the beneficial kind) include: 1) travel faster than the speed of light 2) seem to transcend space and time 3) cause the molecular structure of water to become coherently reordered 4) positively increase immune function in mammals 5) are involved in the formation process in nature.

Effect 3 in the list above is probably applicable to Stanley Meyer’s water fuel cell generator. Somehow polarizing the ether with a DC waveform, enabled Stanley to break the water molecule with a whole lot less energy than required with electrolysis.

As far as Tesla’s Wardenclyffe Tower- I’m guessing here- the Tesla bifiliar coil appears to pump the ether and at the right frequency is able to create a standing scalar, resonant wave inside earth. Note this is NOT a hertzian wave but a scalar wave- think like a pressure wave in the ether. In order to tap it at another point on earth, all you need is a second Tesla tower tuned to the same resonant frequency.

Question- Does the mushroom cap on tower act a a “mirror” for the scalar wave generated by the bifiliar coil and hence “pump” up the scalar energy much like the mirrors in a laser???

BTW, Bahman Zohuri wrote another article in 2019 on "Scalar Wave Energy as Weapon”. You can DL it here: Scalar Wave Energy as Weapon by Bahman Zohuri- June 2019 (https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334074508_Scalar_Wave_Energy_as_Weapon)

Sooo, has anyone found a good, functional explanation of Tesla’s bifiliar coil and the mushroom cap on the Wardenclyffe Tower (from a scalar, ether perspective)? As you can see from reading Tesla’s aforementioned patent 512,340 "Coil for Electro Magnets”, Tesla is VERY cryptic in describing his inventions- almost as if he was trying to obscure the true nature of his work from everyone, except those versed in ether physics. Considering his troubles with Edison, Marconi and having his lab was burnt down in 1895, I don’t blame him.

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A bifolar coil is simply a coil wound in both directions so when electricity goes through it the magnetic field self cancels.

Coil a garden hose on the ground 4 times in one clockwise direction then coil it r tomes in counterclockwise direction right on top of the other coils. That's a bifilar coil.

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You make radiant energy with something called a hairpin circuit or something like that.

Tesla first worked on Dc energy.

Then he very famously invented and worked on ACwhich powers our world.

But Tesla then discovered radiant/cold energy and dropped all ac worked because knew radiant energy completely outdid it. But ac was commercially established already.

https://freedom-particle-system.blogspot.com/2019/09/radiant-energy-collector-tesla.html?m=1

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A young peter lindeman and Eric Dollard show the best demonstration of what scalar/longitudinal energy is with a length of rope held between them about 10 ft.

If its loose and you wave your arm the wave travels relatively slowly down the rope and reaches the other person.

If the rope is taut and one pulls on one end the other persons feels the pull immediately with no delay.

regular light and things travel like a wave.

Scalar energy tugs the fabric of space and can move faster than light.

As Dollard said in his prime "the speed of light is a constant not a limit"

https://ericpdollard.com/free-videos/transverse-longitudinal-electric-waves-and-teslas-longitudinal-electricity/

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=A+young+peter+lindeman+and+Eric+Dollard+show+the+best+demonstration+of+what+scalar+energy+is+with+a+length+of+rope

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Tesla bifiliar coil is the key component in Meyers generator.

Brilliant light power (CIA) took over all his stuff btw. (after Xogen).

Very DS. GE chairman, Rear admirals and rothschilds owned.

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I know Stanley Meyer got sued by his investors and lost- some shady legal work there. Did his investors end up with the patents after he was suicided or did his brother sell them off?

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As far as I know, Stanley never got sued. There was some legalities after his death, but eventually Xogen power ended up with the patents.

His patents were all working btw. They demonstrated it in every country they got a patent from. In the US it was tested AND VERIFIED by both NASA and UL.

Xogen got bought out by an energy company (front), which was probably the plan all along to consolidate the patents. The Money they used to buy the patents with was SHAREHOLDER money, and the shareholders sued when it got shelved.

Judge ruled to company. Investors were bought out and company privatized.

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Here is a link for the investor lawsuit against Stanley: The Mysterious Death of Stanley Meyer- 21Y0120 | Mysteriesrunsolved.com (https://mysteriesrunsolved.com/2020/04/stanley-meyer-death-water-car.htmlFraud_Claims_And_Law_Suits)

The three "expert" witnesses who examined Stanley Meyers tech, either knew NOTHING of Tesla, his bifiliar coil and the ether OR they were in the bag for the DS. I lean towards the latter as being the most reasonable explanation, given the work of Thomas Townsend Brown and his work on anitgravitics in the 1950s.