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In terms of academia, a source like Nature is considered La Creme de la Creme. If you can pick apart an academics argument using Nature as a reference then you've pretty much knocked a leg off of their 3 legged soap box.

The second exercise is understanding the terminology. Nature is good with terminology and reading it can sometimes be an exercise in understanding technobabble. You've got time, read it carefully and any expressions you don't understand look them up. If you are part of the master race then this is not above your intellect, but you may have to break down the expressions to make them more digestible. If you're finding it too hard to read then get gud scrub.

So, pop quiz: Based on current events and reading this review, tell me what issue you can spot from it. (Hint, it's mentioned in the introduction and and based around time periods.)

In terms of academia, a source like **Nature** is considered La Creme de la Creme. If you can pick apart an academics argument using Nature as a reference then you've pretty much knocked a leg off of their 3 legged soap box. The second exercise is understanding the terminology. Nature is good with terminology and reading it can sometimes be an exercise in understanding technobabble. You've got time, read it carefully and any expressions you don't understand look them up. If you are part of `the master race` then this is not above your intellect, but you may have to break down the expressions to make them more digestible. If you're finding it too hard to read then `get gud scrub`. So, pop quiz: Based on current events and reading this review, tell me what issue you can spot from it. (Hint, it's mentioned in the introduction and and based around time periods.)

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[–] [deleted] • 6 pts

If people could stop talking about fucking 5G chips in the vaccine that would be great. You make conservatives who don't want the vaccines for valid reasons look like retards.

They're not tracking you through a vaccine. They're tracking you through the fucking phone in your pocket. They don't need nanobots or whatever qtards believe because you are readily providing them with all the data for free through your browsing.

[–] • 2 pts

Those 5G retards are the ones who are deliberately muddying the waters so that all people who have legitimate concerns are being lumped in with them, and therefore being delegitimised.

It's the same people who peddle hollow earth horseshit.

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Hollow earth is pretty convincing to me, Bible says hell is in there, and that one researcher replicated the conditions at the center of the earth in a lab and found that the metals at that pressure and temperature formed into a crystalline forest. So it’s not unreasonable for me to think that this crystalline forest full of the damned is the place everyone goes when they smoke DMT and see some wild shit while feeling the weight of the world. It all matches up.

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and that one researcher replicated the conditions at the center of the earth in a lab and found that the metals at that pressure and temperature formed into a crystalline forest.

Gonna have to see the source for that one.

[–] • 4 pts

What is the standard time required for phase 1, 2, 3 trials? What is the standard length of time for any vaccine development? What was the length of Pfizer's 1 & 2 trials? When does Phase 3 end? What should be the standard length of trial for a novel vaccine such as mRNA? If you cannot answer the aforementioned questions, you don't know enough about the process.

[–] • 0 pt

Exactly, I first looked at the date, then looked for the problems section. Still needs testing, still issues with production to work out. I can only imagine how rushed they did this in early 2020, cutting corners to get production up, etc. Not a lot of time to make that much progress.

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10 points to you for asking the right questions!

[–] • 1 pt

If you trust it use it. Keep that shit away from me.

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I'm not saying I trust it, I'm saying if the kikes come at you with the needles your greatest defence is to be informed and to philosophically deny them.

[–] • 2 pts

Assuming you're in burgerland your greatest defense is and always has been 2A.

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I get your point, but to think appealing to logic will stop fanatically irrational cult followers from obeying orders is a bit naive. Still a great idea to read their actual scriptures, but just because someone gets sick at the sight of weaponized rhetoric, doesn’t mean they’re to dumb to understand the point.

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It depends. You're not really fighting the person coming at you with the needle, you're fighting the people who are just standing there watching them come at you with the needle.

If you win those people then they'll have your back.

If you argue from an informed position that makes sense to them then you start to win, to put it in maga terms. If you start babbling random words in hopes of sounding intelligent then they're going to take you to be the fool you sound.

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So how many times is the RNA likely to be used to synthesize an S-protein. Is it only used once? 10 times? 100?

Here’s my theory of the covid vax.

This is way more dangerous than the typical vaxes, which are not that safe IMO. Its because that spike protein is a designed bioweapon, created to cleave furrin or something, which I hear is a bad thing. I dont want my furrin cleaved. People are bleeding from their lungs man!

So who cares if this bioweapon is attached to a cold virus that allows it to replicate or not? The point is, how much spike protein is safe in the human body? How much is safe when it is in the epithelials lining the capilaries of your brain or your testes or your placenta? Knowing that it is binding to every ACE2 receptor it sees?

If a 20 or 30 year old is developing cardiovascular inflamation and clotting similar to late stage covid because he has more spike protein in his blood vessels than he ever would have had in a full blown covid infection, how is this better than covid?

Do they know how much spike protein is being produced in a healthy young person who received the jab? How much is safe? How did they determine it? They don’t fucking know, they are guessing.

They claim that they need to provoke a strong immunity with the vax because they dont want “leaky vaccines”. But guess what? Every close contact of a vaccinated person is getting a leaky vax by default. There are a rash of respiratory illnesses like croup and asthma that are surging and they are being caused by vaccinated people shedding the spike proteins on to others. People like my friend’s kid who got croup after she was vaccinated are now weakly immune, i.e. leaky vax. And these illnesses go to show you just how dangerous the spike protein is.

If you want to know what the vax is doing through second hand exposure, look at what their trying to convince you is being caused by something else:

[–] • 0 pt

You are making some good observations which I fully agree with.

One of my main questions to try and stump the covid jabbers is "What are the risks of taking the vaccine vs the risks of catching the covid for people under the age of 40?" Because healthy people under the age of 40 are what really matter, Once your past the age of 40 things start shutting down and they shut down more rapidly if you haven't been taking care of yourself.

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Yeah I agree, there is no benefit for the under 40s. Its all risk. 40 to 65 should be fine without the vax if they have antivirals early in the illness. Above that age people need either antiviral prophylaxis or a vaccine. Ivermectin or hydroxychloroquine prophylaxis are safer. Its safer to take weekly bug killer than this vax but I get that the convenience is an issue.

They should have never approved it for under 65s.

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But on the other hand also you have to ask is it really worth it for over 65s? If their ailments are such that a stiff breeze will push them over then an anti-virus may be as much that stiff breeze that the real virus would be.

People seem too comfortable with the expectation that people will live to 100+ or that death is a completely foreign concept.

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Imagine thinking you can argue with vax cultists based on data and reason.

[–] • 1 pt

You can and I have. If you have about 10x the data they do on the subject its a pretty easy conversation. They don’t always change their mind but they walk away a little less secure

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Oh you don't argue with facts and figures with them, that's like trying to kill wasps by shooting them with a gun where a flamethrower would be a better weapon.

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Everything in this article is describing what vaccination by this method might accomplish. It does not cover what might go wrong AT ALL. Thus it is trash.

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It speaks of what the method might accomplish but also what has been accomplished. Why my aim here is to help people be critical of information and not intimidated or baffled by a barrage of important sounding words.

It is the 'informed' argument the enemy uses, the science on which all other arguments descend. If you want to bicker like trash pandas fighting over a chicken mcnugget then by all means, keep at it.

If you want to start making motions to move people then you have to better understand the science and pick apart why their theory is wrong.

[–] • 2 pts

It is a good aim. People always link to articles citing some study. Like total shit articles with low IQ takes on studies. Link to the study! Read the study!

The study is an oft highjacked vehicle for data shenanigans and statistical fuckery. If you get used to reading the studies skepitcally you can develop an eye for the fuckery. They design and frame the experiment in ways that are most beneficial to their agenda.

If you think about how you would perform a similar study and find that you would collect or report different data, you have to ask yourself— why have these people not collected or reported this data? Why are they excluding useful information they are likely to have? Alot of scientists are just whores for government and corporate money. Its often easy to see their game.

I should say there’s also some good studies out that that offer good data that rarely get publicized by the MSM, but you can glean a lot of truth from the coversation that scientists are having with each other within their own industry literature compared to what they publicize through MSM.

[–] • 0 pt

I hope it's a good reason for people to start being more critical and look into the shit and not be reliant on the news to tell them what to think.

Everyone here is potentially 100 times smarter than any news presenter that just reads a paper in front of a camera and doesn't care if its true or not - they just have to sit there and look 'pretty'.

If people can find a good source and use it to discredit the point being made, find the flaws and point out the kikery, understand good methodology and not just accept what they're reading at face value it could add a lot to this community.

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"a new era" More like a dark age.

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This is in regards to the mRNA vaccine. The viral vector vaccine has been studied and developed considerably in the last decade since SARS hit.

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Didn’t the AZ viral vector vax just kill a blond 30 something BBC presenter yesterday?

You know what the problem is? Its the spike.

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I'm for the use of Ivermectin and the MATH+ protocol of treatment instead of vaccinations and I'm prefacing this so you can understand that my perspective is one of reason.

It's not the Spike. Thrombocytopenia is more likely to occur in women taking birth control and as a reaction from the contraceptive itself than the viral vector vaccine. The Spike is not the problem and the problem at the same time because you have to understand a few aspects about this:

The S(pike) protein is the best protein from a virus to isolate for the usage of a vaccine in comparison to other proteins found such as the N protein.

The S protein is just one component of the overall virus and the other aspects of the virus also influence it's pathology on the body.

The S protein that is being used in the viral vectors such as Sputnik and Janssen is one that was particular selected for it's ability for the body to deal with it due to the folds and physical properties of the protein.

The S protein in the viral vector vaccine is the same S protein from the virus itself, meaning your body's reaction to it will be as if you're reacting to the S protein of the actual virus.

Without the other proteins the resulting impact on your body is significantly less deadly but some people will still have reactions to it just as if they'd have a reaction to the virus itself and die.

Studies since SARS show that the viral vector S protein vaccines result in no immunopathology issues. The same can not be said about any other vaccine except live-attenuated so fuck mRNA vaccines and fuck big pharma.

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It's not the Spike. Thrombocytopenia is more likely to occur in women

Why do you think these problems are unrelated I wonder?

The S(pike) protein is the best protein from a virus to isolate for the usage of a vaccine in comparison to other proteins found such as the N protein.

No debate.

The S protein that is being used in the viral vectors such as Sputnik and Janssen is one that was particular selected for it's ability for the body to deal with it due to the folds and physical properties of the protein.

I know nothing of this. Why is it different then the mRNA version?

There are clearly a significant number of problems reported with the AZ and the J&J vax as well as “trad vax” versions used by China and India. Same thing, clotting. You can say thrombocytopenia, its two sides of the same coin.

The vaccine is being absorbed by the vascular tissue which is then presenting the spike protein causeing an inflammatory immune response on the inside of your blood vessels. The thrombocytes get in on the act and start to induce clotting while simulataneous causing platelet count to drop.

Are the platelets themselves absorbing the vax and producing spike proteins? Probably. I don’t know if this works with the viral vector vax since platelets have no nucleus.

Anyway the spike proteins eventually are released in to the blood stream or lymph fluid and then can go on to “infect” additional cells. Tell me why this cant happen. This was an efficiently designed bioweapon with high affinity for ace2 receptor. Its going to invade any ace2 receptor it sees. The spike protein will continue to wreak havoc inside tissues with high ace2 expression as long as it lasts in sufficient quantities. Its going to behave just like the full virus in your body except for replication. Everything else is the same. Lone spike proteins are probably attacking the platelets as well. They have ace2 receptors.

I wouldn’t have believed it before but it seems as though the vaccinated are “infectious” with the spike protein and second hand exposure is resulting in croup type symptoms, asthma, eye irritation and rashes. A friend’s kid got croup 5 days after the friend was vaccinated. The media is trying to pawn this off as a resurgence of pink eye and hand foot and mouth disease. I kid you not. Hand foot and mouth disease is supposedly to blame for these kids getting rashes on and inside their mouths after mom got the jab. No fucking way.

People are complaining of vaccine arm, a severe rash that occurs one week after vax— spike protein not PEG

If this spike protein is so injurious to skin and epithelials that it causes second hand rashes and respiratory symtoms what’s it doing to the inside of your veins? That ain’t the neocapsid protein doing that.

Studies since SARS show that the viral vector S protein vaccines result in no immunopathology issues

Hog wash. Anytime you provoke an immune response it can go sideways. If it works its going to produce immunopathology some of the time.

Is the VV tech safer than the mRNA? Or the attenuated virus? We dont know because no one is collecting any unbiased data. I don’t trust anybody’s numbers at this point. I just know that all three approaches have killed people . Nobody has made a good case to me why one tech is safer.

But I cant think of any reasons why a few billion or trillion spike proteins wouldn’t wreak as much havoc as the whole virus other than their inability to replicate. It was built to fuck up human cells.

[–] • 0 pt

And yet that's the one they're pushing on Americans despite better tested alternatives being available. Really makes you think.

[–] • 1 pt

Yep and strange how the viral vector ones are the only ones that get such bad publicity, with the mRNA ones being pushed out as the high status vaccine that you have to get instead of the "poor people third world JnJ."

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

Yes, once upon a time it was considered the best. Look into who runs it now. Or just listen to him speak at globalist events :) In fact, I think he was also part of, Event 201.

You're very cute if you imagine facts matter with these people. You must actually think this has something to do with public health. I will say that everyone should be able to read a research paper and be able to spot the jewing that is in MOST of them.

[–] • 0 pt

Oh, I will totally agree with you, Academics have been falling apart since the 1950's. You can spot the change in paper style over the years. Reading papers from the 1900s are a sheer pleasure, like reading a well informed piece of gold but reading papers today is like reading "buzzfeeds top 15 buzzwords without reference to what they mean"

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Great link, thanks. Excellent points.

I wouldn't mind hearing more of your thoughts on the subject. Write something up as if you were teaching a class, though to be frank, this is the minimum kernel necessary for the coursework.

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I'm currently trying to put together a critique of the paper but I have to fit it around what I'm currently doing.

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