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They never got around the Van Allen belts. It was too difficult to do it by 1969 but the public had been hyped up so much and our cold war rep was on the line so NASA had to fake it to make it.

They never got around the Van Allen belts. It was too difficult to do it by 1969 but the public had been hyped up so much and our cold war rep was on the line so NASA had to fake it to make it.

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I've seen this movie before. In terms of moon hoax documentaries, it's actually one of the better ones. But I still think we went to the moon. It's all confirmation bias -- going over pictures with a fine tooth comb, and picking out ones that look anomalous, and rejecting alternative explanations.

I'll give one example. At 3:00:27, they claim that it was impossible that objects in shadow could be seen in photographs. Eventually, they talk about a Mythbusters investigation into the issue:

3:05:59: "But the Mythbusters had made a gross mistake again. After removing every possible source of reflection by using black paper all around the set, they forgot to remove the one of the two who was wearing a bright white shirt. Obviously this white shirt acts as a large reflector towards the dark area of the LEM."

Then they own themselves. It takes them TEN MINUTES to finally make the connection, when at 3:16:17, they talk about the Nvidia simulation of this photograph. Nvidia couldn't match the NASA photograph until they accounted for the astronaut taking the picture as a light source. You know, the guy wearing a bright, white suit?

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You're a smart guy. Spend some time reading what some legit experts have to say on the moon landing.

aulis.com

Men didn't go to the moon.

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You're a smart guy. Spend some time reading what some legit experts have to say on the moon landing.

I've been through these debates countless times. Going to another site that catalogs the same arguments I've already been through isn't gong to change my mind.

How very open minded of you. You've no idea what the "debates" are at that site.

There's a hell of a lot more in depth scientific analysis there than you'll find on your average Internet conspiracy site. I'd go as far as to say it's irrefutable proof that we never went.

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I love how this topic triggers some people.

Someone wasted a down vote on me. I guess when you're already tagged suspicious, what difference does it make?

I'll admit I still occasionally down vote idiots out of habit but so far not to the extent I've gotten tagged.

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You're . . . surprised?! So, you're completely unaware that opposing the official story on this is verboten?

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You got it exactly right. The other thing that is missing here: If you can go over photos with a fine tooth comb and ask questions, then, we can go over the critiques and analysis of skeptics with the same level of detail and see if any of that holds up.

What usually happens is that, while we find the official stories either totally or partially a set of lies, when you examine the skeptics claims you get nothing but utter garbage.

With that being said, it is VERY IMPORTANT that we have people with this kind of obsessive compulsive predisposition looking into all the nooks and crannies because the corollary to confirmation bias is lazyness bias. Normal people simply don't have the kind of mental framework necessary to go over this stuff at the excruciating levels of detail to really get at the truth and so normal people always fall for the lazyness bias.

Without these people we would not have found out about the gulf of tonkin or operation northwoods. Hell, we only recently started to get hints that Bob Woodward was working for the CIA when he exposed Nixon in the Watergate scandal ... he was the waterboy for the CIA that setup Nixon.

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Oh wow that makes so much sense now.

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There were a few moments in there where I thought the argument they were using to debunk something was weak, but there were more than enough solid arguments to convince me that the manned Apollo landings were faked. I only actually made it about 2 hours in before I was convinced enough so I don't think I made it to the part you mentioned.

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This is how they describe this section:

"Let's now tackle the most important issue in the entire discussion on the lunar pictures: backlight photography."

So the "most important issue" is a fail for them. And it highlights the problem with the entire documentary: it sounds convincing, until you dig deeper. The film consists of photographers spitballing, saying, "Doesn't look right to me", while ignoring alternative explanations.

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There exists a video of the press conference after the first manned moon landing. The astronauts look PISSED OFF and depressed. I think they THOUGHT they were going to the moon, then were sequestered for a few days, then told to suck it up and pretend it happened. Watch the video.

edit: 3 downvotes? Why? Have you WATCHED the footage?

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Here's my take: Why is it so hard to believe that we managed to take a bucket of bolts with people inside it, fireproof it, fire it up with some combustion, and send the damn thing to a rock in the sky, in 1969? Doesn't it seem more likely that that is exactly what happened?

I don't think it's necessarily that. I believe we did go to the moon, however what was broadcasted wasn't the actual landing. We don't have the technology to safely return man to the moon now, so what makes you think it was safely possible then? I think it was a one way trip. The van Allen radiation belt would kill any living creature. There was no lead shielding on the Apollo. Would have been far to heavy.

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What's this about not having the tech to safely return? Do you have anything to back that up? Seems to me that it's just expensive and pointless to go there anymore on a manned mission.

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we easily sent people to the moon.. stop thinking everything is faked.

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I thought that too until I saw the evidence.

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Space is fake and gay. The earth is a motionless plane. Its jew magik tricks.

https://files.catbox.moe/u7caga.PNG


Apollo 11- Post moon landing Conference

* https://youtu.be/xyjppxh2-C0




Consider the resolution of the human eye and its ability to distinguish two points at a distance. This is observed by the converging lines of perception forming a "false horizon" and easily proved by laying on your stomach in a field and watching someone walk away from you (you could use a camera too). Your angle of view determines the convergent point for the false horizon. This phenomena would be observed on both a sphere model and on an infinite plane model.

When a ship disappears bottom first, it is because of the ocean waves between the observer and the bottom of the ship are two points that no longer become distinguishable from eachother and hence they "converge" into a false horizon. This is proved by watching a ship disappear with your own naked eyes, only to be brought back into view with modern viewing equipment.

How could modern viewing equipment do this? Resolution of the equipment verses the resolution and biological limitations of the human eye. The equipment as a higher resolution and as a result it can distinguish two points with greater clarity. All of this is observed at a range well under the needed distance to get the SAME effect out of the actual curvature of the earth.

Meaning; most people attribute the "bottom up" effect to the actual curvature of the earth where in fact it is actually due to their perception alone. The height required to actually observe the curvature of the earth is over 40k ft. All arguments saying the curvature of the earth is proven by x object disappearing are false conclusions.

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Video backups;

  • Globalists and their lies prove the earth is flat

https://www.bitchute.com/video/bWRgmgyjobmf/

  • Simple Proof that the ISS is Nothing More than a Hollywood Production

https://files.catbox.moe/3km5oq.mp4

  • The ISS Exposed

https://files.catbox.moe/5mp5mv.mp4

  • A Funny Thing Happened On The Way To The Moon

https://www.bitchute.com/video/7m8rlf5PfUjo/

  • 7 Rockets Hit Dome!

https://files.catbox.moe/a09e9u.mp4

  • Flat Earth Awakening ~ Fake Space Documentary 2019

https://files.catbox.moe/s6s322.mp4

  • Are We Spinning?

  • Astronauts Gone Wild

https://www.bitchute.com/video/3TosA56Sgyp6/



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Tis unconceivable that inanimate brute matter should (without the mediation of something else which is not material) operate upon & affect other matter without mutual contact; as it must if gravitation in the sense of Epicurus be essential & inherent in it. And this is one reason why I desired you would not ascribe {innate} gravity to me. That gravity should be innate inherent & {essential} to matter so that one body may act upon another at a distance through a vacuum without the mediation of any thing else by & through which their action or force {may} be conveyed from one to another is to me so great an absurdity that I beleive no man who has in philosophical matters any competent faculty of thinking can ever fall into it. Gravity must be caused by an agent {acting} <7v> consta{ntl}y according to certain laws, but whether this agent be material or immaterial is a question I have left to the consideration of my readers.

Thats from newton himself.

http://www.newtonproject.ox.ac.uk/view/texts/normalized/THEM00258

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https://nypost.com/2014/04/03/bill-clinton-an-alien-attack-would-unite-us-i-investigated-area-51/

https://youtu.be/CDScioLF-PQ

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And here comes the kike trying to disprove perfectly reasonable conspiracy theories by associating them with unreasonable ones.

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Here comes the kike trying to prevent people from realizing that you filthy parasites have enslaved them to a degree beyond their ability to understand.

No other subject was brought up, you tied it to other truths because;

  • you are a retarded nigger that lacks the IQ required to understand you've been duped.

  • you are a triggered lil' bitch that suffers from extreme cognitive dissonance so you lash out.

  • you are an actual kike serving to gatekeep your main binders on the goyim.

Truth fears no investigation. Kill yourself moshie.

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I've investigated flat earth. It does not hold up. The moon landings being faked is much more reasonable. So is the theory that kike bankers like Epstein, Maxwell, Bronfman, and Ben Mosh run their pedo blackmail rings to control world leaders so they can take control of world finance and rob all of us of a massive amount of money. Stop distracting from legitimate things with crazy bullshit about the earth being flat.

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Wait until you get redpilled on evolution.

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Nah, evolution makes perfect sense. Thinking you're gonna debunk evolution is like thinking you're gonna prove the earth is flat. Genetics, people of different hereditary groups produce offspring that share their own group's traits because they're passing on what works for their people, you can selectively breed dogs as well as humans, etc. Too much of reality fits evolutionary theory and there's not enough motive to fake it.

But the moon landing was massively politically hyped in the middle of a propaganda war. There's plenty of reason to fake it and no reason why it had to have been real.

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>there's not enough motive to fake it

Evolution teaches Gods law is not real and should not be obeyed.

Pretty massive motive.

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God isn't real, fuckin' christcucks.

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Natural selection can be observed in nature. Selective breeding can be observed in agriculture and pet breeding as well as in humans. Selection is a fundamental law of nature. If there is a god who decided the laws of the universe, selection is a law created by that god. If your god did not decide that selection should be the law, a law which you can prove exists and shapes reality, then your god must not be the one deciding the laws of this universe.

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this entire thread makes my head hurt

Evolution teaches Gods law is not real

It isn't. There's literally a logical fallacy known as 'appeal to God.' God was made up by kikes to instill obedience in their underlings.

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Nah, evolution makes perfect sense.

no it actually doesn't...yes, flat earth has more evidence then globe earth, heliocenterism is dead, we are just waiting for people like you to catch on to the reality.

"you can selectively breed dogs" yes...and they call two dogs with slightly different genetics different "species" of animal, yet niggers and whites are "the same species" LMFAO

"there's not enough motive to fake it" kikes always have a motive, and its the same motive, remove genetic importance and heritage from whites...so of course you think blood doesn't matter

if evolution was proven true why do mixed race children have shittier health then pure race children? mixed race, by your theory, should create a stronger breed yes? but it doesn't

evolution also teaches that god isn't real, so yea, motivation a plenty there friend why do you think the moon landing was so important? it establishes the fake space narrative, which in turn, destroys the firmament theory in the minds of people like you

the firmament is proof we can't leave our planet, it's also proof of humanity's divine spirit...now why would jews want humans to not think they are created from god hmmm?

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Evolution does not claim mixed race children will be healthier. Optimally you want someone who's not close enough for your kids to have the problems of inbreeding but not far enough away to have incompatible genes. So you want someone within your ethnic group, or at least your race, but also at least a few generations removed from you for the best chance at getting genes that work well together.

Evolution is why heredity and relatedness matter. We evolved separately for tens of thousands of years making people of different races different. If we were all created by a god in the same image we would not have those differences. The jew distorts evolution and pushes fake religions to make you lose sight of the importance of your genetic heritage. How often does the bible mention whites and Europeans as a distinct race worth preserving? Never.

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Why is it still a THEORY then, goy?

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Hahahahaha, just a theory. Gravity is just a theory, if you don't believe in it go ahead and jump off a cliff and show us gravity can't hold you down!

But seriously, you can observe genetic changes via natural selection in nature and via selective breeding in agriculture and pets. Whites are different from other races because we evolved in a different environment that gave us different traits. Denying evolution means denying the basic nature of reality. Denying the moon landing means accepting that people lie and cheat to make themselves look good, which of course they do.

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It really doesn't. Intra species yes. Inter species? I don't think so.

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What? There is zero evidence of evolution. Selective breeding is not proof of evolution, at all.

Also, the heliocentric model is complete horseshit.

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The fact that selective breeding can produce different traits from the general species and create a new population with different traits is absolutely proof of evolution.

How is the heliocentric model bullshit?

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Except the Earth is Flat.

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Yup, looked out my window and saw the Eiffel Tower.

The refraction even makes such distances curve upwards.

Flat earth is a py-op run by traitors.

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Meh... wait until you rewatch nuclear bomb videos.

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See one where the clouds remain in the same place after the wave hits. Very sus

I think we're all here because we accept evolution is real. If you reject evolution, you reject that niggers are proto-human. If you reject that niggers are proto-human, then you're basically a 'We're all equal after all!' kike-subverted pawn.

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So you thinkk I'm descended from a nigger?

Fuck off. That "out of africa" shit was debunked decades ago.

you thinkk I'm descended from a nigger

Nice false attribution/red herring. Funny enough, I was about to include the Out of Africa nonsense in my previous post. Caucasians share a common ancestor with the rest of Asian, but not Africa. You can't fight natural law, although you do seem to be more on the nigger IQ spectrum than regular Whites.

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Fucking moon landing truthers?!?! Holy shit lollercaust

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Let's do 9.11 next please. The same triggered emotional responses happen when you mess with the "Greatest Country on Earth!"

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Watched 30min so far. Excellent video, even if you aren't convinced.

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This is allowed on yt... hallofcost isn’t...

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Because that threatens the jewish power structure more directly than this.

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All this does is try to destroy one of the Aryan mens greatest achievements. Of course they'd leave it up.

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you're fucked if u let Grow up and forget fantasies boy, be a man. You think Jews wouldn't attack this narrative? Oh that's right, Israel is in direct contact with the aliens. Believe scary ICBM nukes & the Sampson Option too. Every jew narrative is

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