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What they always fall back on and teach in school is that if two animals cannot breed they are different species. So supposedly the two on the top cannot breed but I imagine that's only because of geographical distance. I'd like to see a paper about why they are different species there must be one.

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Theyll tell you two animals that cant breed are different species. They dont mention that just because two animals can breed doesnt mean theyre the same species. Lots of different animal species can hybridize.

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The definition sucks and the whole thing is murky as hell as far as I can tell, that's the definition though. In fact, pulled out the dictionary just now and it's even murkier because it says they're part of the same species if they can "usually interbreed" so goddamn.

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Then wolves and coyotes are the same species. So are cougar and leopard. So are grizzlies and polar bears. That would kind of shake up the ESA listings now wouldnt it? But no, they only make your claim when it applies to the human one race agenda, and discard it when it applies to pushing esa bullshit. Lions and tigers produce fertile offspring. Are lions and tigers the same species?

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Ok, I bring up the fact that there are lots of examples of hybridization.

I have no doubt that if one keep a mixed group of the two on the top you'd get hybrid offspring.

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Ok, I bring up the fact that there are lots of examples of hybridization.

Here is an exhaustive list, sorted by the distance between the parents, (macroevolution.net) which is used to make the argument that we, humans, are also hybrids (not derived from Chimps, but a 'lucky' chimp/pig cross), as we have the typical traits. (macroevolution.net)

In short:

And, most crucially, apparently our enlarged brains are due to the pigs capillary structure + ability to sweat from the skin. (macroevolution.net) Apparently, the human skull has small holes to allow hot blood from the brain to cool against the scalp, a trait no primate has, and only pigs also have. However, our brain growth is lifted from the primate.

Apparently, in primates and humans, the brain will keep growing until it exhausts the body's ability to cool the brain, and then it stops growing. This is why Bantu Africans / Apes / etc will keep up with White children in controlled settings until age 12 or so, when the White child will start outpacing the nonwhite. This also appears to be why North American Africans are smarter than their Bantu cousins, and why we as a whole get smarter the colder the regional average temperature + why the summer is 'murder season' + a number of other anomalies.

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I wonder if this is related on why some religions don't allow the eating of pig meat

Cold Temp doesn’t make you smarter

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Has it ever occurred to you that the earth is very old and the same things that are happening now with genetic fuckery has happened before?

As in, the pig is a creation of combining humans with something else, or perhaps even just failed genetic over writing, similar to what they're starting with RNA vaccine.

This is much more believable than we were made from pigs.

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Fascinating. So humans are an alien manufactured hybrid?

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Does it count if their offspring are mules? Some species can breed, but THOSE offspring are generally sterile and cannot reroduce, and are called mules.

  • Donkey + horse = Mule (hence the name)
  • Muscovy duck + Mallard duck = Mulard .. and so on.

I'm not sure if mixed kids are mules at all, but there is some evidence, there are issues.

Mixed race black and white couples face higher odds of prematurity and low birth weight, which appear to contribute to the substantially higher demonstrated risk for stillbirth. There are likely additional unmeasured factors that influence birth outcomes for mixed race couples.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2867623/

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Mixed race offspring are too genetically dissimilar to either parent for them to donate bone marrow if the child needed it.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/why-mixed-race-minorities-struggle-to-find-life-saving-transplant-matches

Anecdotally, I know a hispanic-chinese couple who had an extremely difficult pregnancy that required bedrest and the woman almost died in childbirth. Another couple is both the same european ancestry and the mom climbed mountains and went running during pregnancy and did a natural birth with no painkillers. Coincidence?

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Heck, women used to work up until labor.

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Dolphins breed with false killer whales and produce fertile offspring. It’s called a wholphin

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Lions and tigers can breed together and produce fertile offspring, yet lions =/= tigers.

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Proving yet again that scientists are half theory.

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To be honest, I really want those homunculus creatures to be proven, because then the only thing that quantifies a species is choice.