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For most people, in most situations, the Earth is flat. We look at flat maps, we make small-angle assumptions on the direction of gravitational force. Even civil engineers building huge structures make this assumption in their calculations. Of course we know the Earth is not flat...

In some cases we need to assume the Earth is round - e.g. using the stars for navigation works better with a round Earth assumption. The seasons and yearly weather cycles also fall into this category. Of course we know the Earth is not round...

The Earth is actually a squashed ball, fattest at the equator. Well, actually there's also a little bulge at the North Pole. Plus a bunch of mountains and oceans... And on top of that we need to account for general relativity and the non-Euclidean nature of space with respect to mass and velocity etc... Little fuzzy on that. And that's not even including whatever quantum effects there are.

But if you think about it, the Earth only curves about 0.67 feet over 1 mile. That's the flattest thing most people will ever come across.

I was thinking about this after reading Asimov's "The Relativity of Wrong". He was more arguing that science is never right but always getting closer to the truth. But I think he left out something - the first claim, "the Earth is flat", while being the most "wrong", is also the most useful basic assumption to make in most cases.

For most people, in most situations, the Earth is flat. We look at flat maps, we make small-angle assumptions on the direction of gravitational force. Even civil engineers building huge structures make this assumption in their calculations. Of course we know the Earth is not flat... In some cases we need to assume the Earth is round - e.g. using the stars for navigation works better with a round Earth assumption. The seasons and yearly weather cycles also fall into this category. Of course we know the Earth is not round... The Earth is actually a squashed ball, fattest at the equator. Well, actually there's also a little bulge at the North Pole. Plus a bunch of mountains and oceans... And on top of that we need to account for general relativity and the non-Euclidean nature of space with respect to mass and velocity etc... Little fuzzy on that. And that's not even including whatever quantum effects there are. But if you think about it, the Earth only curves about 0.67 feet over 1 mile. That's the flattest thing most people will ever come across. I was thinking about this after reading Asimov's "The Relativity of Wrong". He was more arguing that science is never right but always getting closer to the truth. But I think he left out something - the first claim, "the Earth is flat", while being the most "wrong", is also the most useful basic assumption to make in most cases.

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Common sense tell you that the earth is Round.

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Common sense tells you the Earth is a motionless Plane.

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Its a toroid with entrances at the north and south poles. The inner earth houses a central star.

For reference see the 3d model of a hydrogen atom.

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Not buying that either. Flights from LA to Japan usually go from LA->Detroit up and over to Japan.

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You have to consider air currents when looking at flight plans

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You make a good point. I remember one time a geophysicist talking about how the earth is smoother than a pool ball. Although, yes the earth is a spheroid, it is one of the flattest things humans come into contact with.

Yeah I'm trying to think of other cases where the basic assumption is "wrong" but still has much truth in it. Newtonian physics. Electrical circuit modelling... like assuming zero resistance wires is not true but useful.

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Localized Sun and Moon. No curve. No spin. Heliocentrism is for the goy.

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That's the flattest thing most people will ever come across.

you shoulda seen my ex

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Well.... if you don't want to look at her anymore don't wish that shit on us! Comon man! Have a heart

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Clearly bowl shaped

Otherwise the water would run off the edge

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more precisely, the curve of the earth is 0.666 feet over 1 mile. there is no curve in the earth its just the space that is warped around us.