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Holy shit. Mars has very little greenhouse effect, so it is very cold; venus has a lot, so it is very hot...

You're neglecting the fact that they're different distances from the sun, cunts.


That said, I'd we had a choice between global warming and cooling, only an idiot would pick the latter. And the more co2 we have in the air, the easier and faster it gets for plants to grow.

At the end of day, all these doomsday scenarios that were used to justify this "green" shit, were based on false feed back systems. It's false, we knew it was false before, and now that it's 20 years later, and none of that shit is happening, we know it's shit now.

Variance in climate due to human factors is 5% at best, the rest is activity from the sun that we CANNOT change.

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It's false, we knew it was false before, and now that it's 20 years later, and none of that shit is happening, we know it's shit now.

Nope. Maybe you're on drugs or work for a coal company. It has played out as the IPCC said it would, and they've been writing those .

Try sourcing some of your moronic claims.

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>drugs

>work for coal company

>moronic claims

Found the NPC.

First off, you're citing a report by the UN... the same people that are trying to flood Europe with "refugees".


Lets (both) stop using insults, and think about this critically:

If you were to somehow get a time-machine, go forward 30 years to the year 2048, and see that the doomsday scenarios warned about by scientists and other government bodies in 2018 were not true. Would this change your mind? If they had got it completely wrong?

Global Warming first started to come to prominence around 1988, with the emergence of climate models that predicted that if we "didn't do something" the temperature would keep getting hotter, oceans melt, etc, etc. Back then, we couldn't know if it was true or not, but now, 30 years after the emergence of the global warming/climate change theory, we sure can. And none of the predictions that were drilled into us as high school students, and were used as the foundation for the entire global warming / climate change hypothesis have come true.

The underlying problem with all of these studies is that all the models incorporate a positive feedback system. IE, the warmer the earth gets; the more evaporation from the sea; which creates more of a "greenhouse" effect; which results in a higher temperature; and repeat. In reality, this does not occur.

But none of that really matters. Because even if you were the kind of person that was never fortunate enough to learn to read, and couldn't make head not tails of what was said, you could still realise that they changed the name. First it was global warming, but now it's climate change. So which one is it? Is the earth getting too hot? Or too cold? If getting too hot was the original problem, why are we now upset that it's actually getting colder? . If "pollution" was the original cause of warming, why wouldn't we just "pollute" more to cancel out the coldness?

And the solution to all this, it seems, is CO2 restrictions. Nasa will put out article after article but will only display the data that is convenient to them. When looking across a much larger timeline, it's shown that CO2 levels and emissions were . CO2 is plant food: the more of it we have in the air, the higher crop yield we can get, and the more easier it is for plants. In fact, if it gets too low, that's a .

We can debate global warming and climate change till the cows come home, but ultimately, it's irrelevant. What matters is:

a) is it actually bad?

What part is bad? Too hot or too cold? CO2?

b) is it natural or man-made?

Until there is firm evidence that it's mostly caused by humans, we shouldn't be spending any money on it.

c) what is it going to cost and for how much change?

Right now, it will cost the developed world trillions of dollars, and the net effect will be less than the standard temperature fluctuation. If you find a study with the hard numbers, please do share, but from memory, it will cost trillions of dollars each year, and the net outcome after 20 years will be a 1.5°C reduction in the increase it would have otherwise been, 1,000,000,000,000 dollars every year is a lot of money, mate. It's more than the .

Here's a really good source I've found. No science is simple for those not of the field, but this does well to explain things in simple terms that makes sense: https://mises.org/library/skeptics-case


Really, you've just got to follow the money.

Renewable/alternative energy is not at the level that it needs to be yet, but people still need power, so they're still going to need coal and oil. When developed countries impose (carbon) taxes for mining their own resources, the local energy companies cannot compete, other countries (middle east) don't give a shit about climate change, and so they sell their oil and coal to the other nations, and at higher price - do you remember how expensive oil (and petrol) got during the obama years?

Renewable energy is important, and will come to the market organically once it becomes economically viable, but we're not doing ourselves any favours by haemorrhaging massive amounts of money to appease the cult of climate change "science".

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And the solution to all this, it seems, is CO2 restrictions. Nasa will put out article after article about how CO2 is on the rise but will only display the data that is convenient to them. When looking across a much larger timeline, it's shown that CO2 levels and emissions were much, much higher than what we have now.

The second link in this passage above doesn't even have a vertical axis.

a) is it actually bad?

Yes, it's likely to be bad. What we have is good, we would be stupid to fuck around with our climate hoping it won't be bad. https://www.skepticalscience.com/global-warming-positives-negatives.htm

b) is it natural or man-made?

Until there is firm evidence that it's mostly caused by humans, we shouldn't be spending any money on it.

It's man made, the evidence is as firm as we could ever hope for. https://www.ipcc.ch/publications_and_data/publications_and_data_reports.shtml

c) what is it going to cost and for how much change?

The cost is insignificant relative to the risks. You show no sources for your cost claims, like most of your lies.

Really, you've just got to follow the money.

Yes, that would be enough. The combined fossil fuel and agriculture industries that stand to lose from greenhouse gas reductions are THE money. Propaganda designed to protect their enormous profits is what's behind your post, and why so many people on here have been brainwashed to reject settled science.

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It's false, we knew it was false before, and now that it's 20 years later, and none of that shit is happening, we know it's shit now.

Link to your examples regarding "none of that shit is happening". As I said above, source your claims.