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i believe that the climate is changing but i also believe the fear mongering behind global warming is a hoax.

does anyone have any facts to back this up? i do not trust the internet or even my own discernment, i am not a scientist. the internet and popular platforms are designed to prove skeptics wrong even if they're right.

yes, im ruining my social standing by not being on the bandwagon and i need help fast, but im not finding anything to help me. my bro thinks i live off gut feelings with no facts to stand on. im researching. reliable information that is back up by facts and educated scientists.

im suffocating a in a pool of my own idiocy and ignorance, send help

i believe that the climate is changing but i also believe the fear mongering behind global warming is a hoax. does anyone have any facts to back this up? i do not trust the internet or even my own discernment, i am not a scientist. the internet and popular platforms are designed to prove skeptics wrong even if they're right. yes, im ruining my social standing by not being on the bandwagon and i need help fast, but im not finding anything to help me. my bro thinks i live off gut feelings with no facts to stand on. im researching. reliable information that is back up by facts and educated scientists. im suffocating a in a pool of my own idiocy and ignorance, send help

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When I was a teenager in the late '90s, I learned something about pollution that has shielded me from environmental fear-mongering ever since. Bare in mind, I have no source(s) to cite. Long ago, 1,000 or 2,000 years ago (so, not pre-humanity), a volcano erupted. All of the ash, smoke, lava, sulfur, everything that results from volcanoes, was greater than the entirety of humanity's pollution. All of our oil spills, all of our fires, all of the aerosol, styrofoam, car exhaust, industrial exhaust, nuclear fallout; all of everything combined from humanity's existence was less than the results of ONE volcano (note: an extremely violent volcano.) I have been completely inoculated to all climate alarmism because of this scientific fact.

This was one volcano. Volcanoes erupt and spew 'pollutants' all the time. Are we responsible for that, or will we be made to prevent future eruptions?

Snake oil salesmen sold tonics guaranteed to make it rain when there was drought. Human sacrifice has been used to influence the weather. Rain dances. Prayers. Animal sacrifice. An uncountable number of rituals and beliefs have been based on controlling the weather for thousands of years.

Trying to understand the weather, certain star constellations at certain times of the year are blamed or revered. Phases of the moon, eclipses, animals born with two heads, twins, rabid or demented animals, animal die-offs; all used to explain weather. The goddamn weather men can't accurately predict a seven day forecast, and I'm supposed to believe they know what the world's temperature will be like in 10 years?

I knew all of these things before I began to research globalism and world-wide socialism. Environmental catastrophe is one of the ways the fabian society try to push socialism. That is the end goal of global warming/global cooling/climate change/el nino/ozone layer deterioration.

WE CANNOT CONTROL THE WEATHER. We never have and we never will. Can we pollute? Yes, and it isn't good. Does covering a bunch of land area with concrete affect rainfall patterns? Probably, but I would argue that it's impossible to prove. Mainly, because you can't record rainfall one year in one city, then go back in time and remove all the buildings and concrete and re-record the rainfall to see if it changed.

Weak-minded, weak-spirited people want something in which they can believe. And too many people are weak, and too lazy to think for themselves. They WANT to be told what to think and what to do. This weakness/laziness is what I think is the evil that is written about in religions and philosophies. This will never end. It will always be present in humanity.

I try not to argue with people about global warming, and I love to argue. Instead, I make snide remarks about global warming when it's cold. I love when people complain about the heat while they're standing inside an air-conditioned building.

Don't argue with your family. Go read. Start with The Creature From Jekyll Island by G. Edward Griffin. It is in one of the final chapters when he mentions environmental fear-mongering as a tool of socialism, but the book is about money, the federal reserve, and how both are used to control our government and population.

My best educated-guess about the changes in the weather, is our sun.

Clown world side note: people were convinced to buy electric vehicles to save the environment. To recharge the vehicles, from where does the electricity come? Burning more coal. lulz

this is very well put. i liked how you phrazed it. im resisting the urge to quote you in one long paragraph.

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Of course the climate is changing, as it has for billions of years.

Look into Solar Minimum which involves sunspots, solar flares and the 11 years solar cycle. Lots to delve into that explains the long cold winters, precipitation and short summers we have had lately. Why does the lame stream pravda not speak about this?

Climate is always changing due to solar system influences. Global warming may or may not be occurring. In 1969 "climate scientists" predicted a new ice age. Now, warming is going to kill us all. They're all guessing. There's nothing to see here.

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thats what im telling my brother. im telling him that i do believe that the climate is changing but theres nothing to do about it. that if we want a nice planet we have to take care of it. but otherwise anything to do with climate change is a money grab and that its a several billion dollar industry that are fear mongering through social media but not producing results.

he says that there are solutions. im asking, if there are solutions where are the results? i say believe nothing question everything, he asks me where i heard it, i actually am not sure. he calls me a liar. i post links, im speculating with him. he posts NASA and other articles. he says im out of my mind and the sources to my articles are baseless and topics opinionated.

if billionares are controlling social media and the internet, they would use their power to make me sound like a lunatic. he says im fear mongering and out of touch with reality. i dont know man, it kind of sounds like we're agreeing with each other. he says i have a defeatest mentality and "question everything and believe nothing" is a scapgoat and all im doing is fear mongering.

i dont know man. i want to be close with my bro, but hes kiked to hell and back like i used to be and my mom burnt him out as a kid and hes got little hope of being unkiked.

i cant back myself up or make myself sound smart enough to put up a good counter argument because he has ultimate faith in the government and he will not support any questioning of it unless i can source a good counter argument but all i got to work with is the enemies platform.

even this comment makes me sound stupid, im just getting emotional sorry, im just so sad

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im really down right now, its like my bro completely misses the point and willfully misconstrues everything im trying to say. how is the meme i posted about the sea levels not changing more dangerous than a fear mongering child actress making an obvious money grab for climate change. how is my aprension about climate change worse than greta whats her face

Don't fall for the "we have to save the world" lies. The elites that preach conservation are the most wasteful and polluting people alive. The planet will be here for several billion more years, with or without us.

i know but my bro calls that a defeatist mentality and idk what to say about it if thats some of the evidence hes using to discredit me. guess ill have to cut ties with my family but id like my bro to see the logic about it like youre saying

i just wish there was an eloquent way to explain that so that people would understand that the global warming crisis is just a fear mongering money grab. my bro keeps linking NASA and how climate change works and how thousands of well educated scientists think we should throw money at the "problem". hes blaming us for global warming and following that toxic narrative. billions of invested dollars with nothing in return, pointing that out somehow makes me the bad guy

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You don't need to understand the detailed science. Just look at the predictions that have been made over the past 35 years. The arctic ice was meant to disappear by 2000 for example. Instead of exponentially increasing temperatures we have had a flatline/pause for over 15 years.

Any hypothesis that generally makes incorrect predictions is bogus and invalid. There is also the widespread fraudulent readjustment of measured temperature data to create fake warming trends, which wouldn't be needed with a credible theory.

wattsupwiththat.com has relevant articles. Some are quite technical but others describe the frauds or failed predictions with simple graphs.

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If it is what honestly going to change to matter.

maybe its the first step for people to open their eyes to the bigger picture. if the government is iwlling to lie about this, what else are they willing to lie about? i want my friends and family to look into it, maybe its the first step to getting them to volunteer to go down the rabbit hole

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But we do know. Is that going to stop plastic from being produced? You can volunteer but if we don't change the way we live what goods it going to do. Don't see everybody boycotting plastic or walking more

my brother calls that a defeatist mentality, eye roll maybe he just gets off saying im wrong about stuff and insulting me