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More than anything, this is a PSA for anons for whom this may be relevant.

COVID lockdowns and hysteria caused a lot of bullshit, as we all know. But, it also created opportunity. Many companies were forced to go 100% remote, and many of them will never be going back to the "go to a physical office" model.

For those of you working remotely, the idea of overemployment may be of interest to you. It basically means that you simultaneously have 2 or more full time, remote jobs. Which means, 2 or more full time salaries.

There are some industries where this is totally possible, some where it's more difficult, and some where it may not be possible. If you already have a remote job, you can probably ascertain whether or not it is possible for you better than I could. But I do know that a lot of people doing coding work, for example, are doing this. As for me, I'm in digital marketing (SEO, Google Ads, etc.)

After losing half of my savings in a divorce at the beginning of 2021, I knew I needed to catch up. I got the bright idea to try to get another full time job. Long story short, the more I looked into the concept, the more I learned about how to pull it off. Overemployed.com is a great resource for anyone looking to do this, FYI.

At this point, I have had two full time jobs since early to mid February. I am likely going to add a third in the near future. From there, who knows.. perhaps a 4th?

I outsource some of the lower level, more menial/time consuming/less important tasks so that I am able to juggle everything in toto. Whatever I'm paying is worth it because I'm still making more money than I would with a single job. And, having a helping hand also is what will free me up to take on a third job when I ascertain that my hired help is trained up enough to handle more work and more efficiently.

Anyhow, just putting this out there in case someone finds it helpful.

Money=power. Get money.

More than anything, this is a PSA for anons for whom this may be relevant. COVID lockdowns and hysteria caused a lot of bullshit, as we all know. But, it also created opportunity. Many companies were forced to go 100% remote, and many of them will never be going back to the "go to a physical office" model. For those of you working remotely, the idea of overemployment may be of interest to you. It basically means that you simultaneously have 2 or more full time, remote jobs. Which means, 2 or more full time salaries. There are some industries where this is totally possible, some where it's more difficult, and some where it may not be possible. If you already have a remote job, you can probably ascertain whether or not it is possible for you better than I could. But I do know that a lot of people doing coding work, for example, are doing this. As for me, I'm in digital marketing (SEO, Google Ads, etc.) After losing half of my savings in a divorce at the beginning of 2021, I knew I needed to catch up. I got the bright idea to try to get another full time job. Long story short, the more I looked into the concept, the more I learned about how to pull it off. Overemployed.com is a great resource for anyone looking to do this, FYI. At this point, I have had two full time jobs since early to mid February. I am likely going to add a third in the near future. From there, who knows.. perhaps a 4th? I outsource some of the lower level, more menial/time consuming/less important tasks so that I am able to juggle everything in toto. Whatever I'm paying is worth it because I'm still making more money than I would with a single job. And, having a helping hand also is what will free me up to take on a third job when I ascertain that my hired help is trained up enough to handle more work and more efficiently. Anyhow, just putting this out there in case someone finds it helpful. Money=power. Get money.

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That's just building a company.

So basically I work in SEO/SEM/Social Advertising/Web Design as well. I freelance, so I have many clients. I'm currently building an agency and training 4 people.

I have a business partner who is also starting his own agency and we do something called white labeling, basically we'll run an SEM department under another companies name so they can offer their clients our services. Thats easy to take on a client for $2,000 - $3,000 a month in your pocket for a minimal amount of work.

If you want more money, you take on more clients and white label agreements and distribute them to your employees. You'll scale way faster and won't end up getting fired or sued for screwing around with full time jobs. The earning potential is way higher as well.

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Yeah man, I tried to do my own thing with a partner a few years back. We made it work somewhat. I’m not much of a sales guy, my background is in implementation and management of the projects. I could never get it where it needed to be. Every time I’d get a new client, one would fall off.

White labeling was a part of it, but not the bulk.

I’m viewing my current situation not too differently than running an agency..exception being that it’s way easier for me to get salary jobs that pay well than a bunch of clients who aren’t necessarily committed to more than 3 months.

As for getting fired, that happens all the time in the white labeling/agency setting because a lot of clients are fickle, at least in my experience.

In the current situation, if I get fired I still have at least one job. Another would be easy to replace.

I guess for me, it’s easier to sell myself to a company because we’re speaking the same language than to sell my services to a client that knows dick about marketing.

I’m glad your thing is working out. You’re doing what I had originally set out to do. But for me, I’m making way more money now than I ever could trying to rustle together a bunch of clients.

2-3 full time jobs that pay $100k/year is easy for me to get and retain than 8 clients at $3k/pop that are committed. That’s just been my experience anyhow.

I think ultimately, we’re doing the same thing, just in different ways. I do view my “employers” as clients, actually. They just don’t know that they’re the client, which makes no difference to me. I’m getting a few “whales” and calling it good, you’re getting smaller fish but in bigger quantities. My potential to earn can increase if I get more people to farm stuff out to, obviously.

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Oh. I guess holding sturdy clients isn't too hard for me, but I feel pretty good with client-facing interactions and justifying/walking them through stats they might have questions on and how to fix it.

I guess if it works for you have fun! Just be careful to read any work contracts you sign. Make sure you don't get in any legal/financial troubles if caught. One client i white label for recently purged some people that were working on other jobs during company time.

Also try to avoid family run companies. Just promise me you won't take advantage of people who don't deserve it.

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I'm fine with walking them through the metrics. But as you know, with a lot of this stuff, there's only so much you can do to control the quality of leads (I'm talking outside of ecommerce businesses). I think a lot of my clients were just in tough industries. For example, I was focused on lawyers and mortgage brokers pretty heavily. If I could have landed a whale or two, I would have been sitting pretty. But I just never could. I had a bunch of smaller clients and legal, for example, 'aint a cheap vertical in PPC. I think a lot of the problem is that I focused on tough verticals. And if the client is no good at selling themselves to prospects that I bring in, then they fuck us both. I also wasn't cheap, like you.

In terms of contracts and not getting caught, I have been very intentional about who I work for. Both companies know I do outside work and they're fine with it. As you know, this is a results driven business at its core. As long as I produce results, I'm good. And everything in that regard is going swimmingly. And neither of these companies are insistent that I do "x number of hours of work", just that shit gets done and it's high quality.

Anyhow, to that point, anyone who wants to be overemployed needs to be intentional and strategic in who they work for. Not all companies run the same just because the job is in the same field. For example, overemployed.com was saying not to try and work for any FAANG companies (Facebook, Amazon, Apple, Netflix, Google) and be overemployed, and I think that makes a lot of sense.