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I haven't said the rosary in a very long time probably since grammar school. I've made up my own way to use the beads which puts me into a meditative state which is pretty thrilling actually. I've been curious about Lourdes and how Mary appeared to the young girl. Mary had the rosary with her and this is what confuses me. Is it a tool from God or is it a tool from man and if it's from man why does Mary have it?

I really enjoy going to the Lourdes grotto just down the road from my father's house. It's completely ignored and is more or less falling apart. But to me that makes it more beautiful than sitting in a church adorned with gold and jewels and pageantry. Anyway if anyone has any thoughts or directions or things they want to share about this I'm all eyes.

I haven't said the rosary in a very long time probably since grammar school. I've made up my own way to use the beads which puts me into a meditative state which is pretty thrilling actually. I've been curious about Lourdes and how Mary appeared to the young girl. Mary had the rosary with her and this is what confuses me. Is it a tool from God or is it a tool from man and if it's from man why does Mary have it? I really enjoy going to the Lourdes grotto just down the road from my father's house. It's completely ignored and is more or less falling apart. But to me that makes it more beautiful than sitting in a church adorned with gold and jewels and pageantry. Anyway if anyone has any thoughts or directions or things they want to share about this I'm all eyes.

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Why not share? I'm no one to judge. Is Mary even a part of the Protestant faith? I know nothing about any of it. I glanced at Buddhism for a short period of time and then realized that it was just another religion that follows men in dresses. I keep coming back to my Catholic upbringing. I think the church is horribly broken but there's something in the basics of it that draw me back.

[–] 3 pts

Because I'm too tired to get into a theological fight with Catholic Poalers....again....over the biblical passages stating that Mary, idols, and several other things are not part of the biblically laid out plan for a worshiper.

I think they're saved. I just think they're wasting their time and bordering on idol worship with the beads and prayers to Mary.

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Well now that's interesting. We might have talked a long time ago about this already. About how God already knows everything that you're saying to God. So what's the point of prayer, just be good and get about your day. Anything else is just pagan and ritual.

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We probably did. I think the most simple response to why should we pray if God knows all is that Jesus commanded us to do it. Whatever else, that kind of ends the argument. I kind of adhere to: If Jesus said it, it ends the argument. If an Apostle wrote it while under the guidance of the holy Spirit, we should follow it. If it's NOT stated, explicitly, you fall back to OT law which has a stance for basically everything's not covered in the NT

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaRf9Ofd5GY

I was watching this video on new pipe and this guy pretty much said everything you said. It makes perfect sense. But then what are all these apparitions? Say for instance like at Lourdes? Is it just mania, demonic or just really simple people trying to cause a stir? I stopped going to church years ago because I felt the priest failed me at least with their lectures and don't do's. And then all of the rape and horrible things they've done to boys and girls. But you really don't need which is something that I believe in wholeheartedly a stage to speak with God. Because that's just theater for others.

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Jesus stated that God's temple endwells with people who accept the holy Spirit and believe. The purpose of church is to strengthen each other, give purpose and direction to the spreading of the gospel, and to help direct us when we fall into sin. What we have now are denominations of Christianity that dictate entire life directions and condemn people for things that may or may now have importance. For example: baptists believe you are not saved until baptism. Calvinism believes that everything and every action is predetermined and if your not one of the elect, you can never be saved. The list goes on and on.

As far as modern miracles and events, I cannot speak on them. For example: if Lourdes is true, why not Joseph Smith? If the Virgin of Guadalupe is true, why not 7th day Revelation? When you get into miracles, it's sticky and tricky. I think what is important is to remember Who did the miracle, as opposed to the miracle itself. Think of the lepers, so happy to be healed, but forgot to thank the healer.

The gospel is simple. Believe that Christ died for your sins and adhere to him. Everything else is secondary. But that also means that the secondary stuff is irrelevant to salvation as long as faith in Jesus and our Father is there. It's why I hold the unpopular belief that rank and file Mormons are saved. But I think Satan can buddy the waters so much people forget how easy it is, and leads them away with side issues. IF I DON'T perform acts in church, I'm not saved, forgetting Jesus. If I don't knock on doors for 20 hours a week, I'm not saved. If I die without being dunked in water Jesus won't love me. Etc.