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I’m looking for something that’s as close to the greek and hebrew as possible without any gay kikery.

I’m looking for something that’s as close to the greek and hebrew as possible without any gay kikery.

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Learn Greek and Hebrew and read the originals

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Ever wonder why we, being a Christian nation, did not teach Hebrew or Greek in grade schools? But that is a topic for another time.

In my opinion, choose the NIV (New international version) before copywrite 1970. Thrift stores and yard sales have them in abundance. I use many versions for they all contribute in some areas of scripture. Remember the Bible is the inspired Word of God. He will speak to you through the Holy Spirit.

You may read the same verses many times before something special is revealed to you. And when you "see" a word from God it is very exciting.

However, let's see how I can explain it............ the Bible has not been corrupted as many think, but it has been truncated. Reduced down so it will fit. Over time, this is the way it has remained until 1970. I avoid newer than 1970 because that is when modern language changes were tried and it begins to dilute the meaning even further. Ever see these huge big thick Bibles? They have been less truncated. This is a bad example, but it's like when a movie is cut down to fit in a time slot. Publishers are always trying to fit the book into a smaller and smaller space.

So let us look at the meaning of a particular verse, For example: Genesis 3:16 My wife had a huge problem with this verse, so I begin looking into the original text to see if I could help. The original text is Paleo Hebrew, not modern Hebrew. I learned the alphabet and some of the original texts are online in many places.

The scripture is what God said to Eve after she and Adam were caught disobeying his command to not eat of the fruit from the tree in the middle of the garden.

My NIV says: To the woman he said: "I will greatly increase your pain in childbearing; with pains you will give birth to children. Your desire will be for your husband, and he will rule over you.

After much studying Paleo Hebrew and realizing that English is very lacking to capture the complete tapestry of what God was saying to Eve, (what God said is filled with an emotional connection to a woman filled with regret, she KNOWS what she has done is massive, has consequences and is irreversible for she has gained wisdom), and this lame attempt from the Paleo Hebrew is what it means to me.

God Said to Eve: "A Snare (by Satan) has increased your sorrow and your sadness and your sighing. In sorrow (crying, regret, fear and pain) you shall bring forth sons. Your desire will no longer be to love me (share my company, my provisions, my garden, my protection, my happiness), but you will eventually turn away from me and cling to your husband (for his company, his love, his provisions) and he will protect you."

Big difference huh?

So when you study, remember that the texts are much more complicated and richer than you can EVER imagine. Since the beginning of time Satan has been trying to undermine and corrupt everything good, especially through words and meanings. Learn God's commands, learn Jesus' commands, learn the Spirit's commands and obey them.

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KJV and use something alongside it.

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There are college courses that trace back and disassemble the bible as a work of literature. It’s interesting and eye opening when you start learning how it all changed over the years. There is no real beginning to the story, just bits that trace back further and further into history to times forgotten or totally lost. The parts that are pulled from or shared with other cultures and religions from BCE are interesting as well. All religions of the world have some shared stories that have played an epic game of telephone over the ages, some trace back many many thousands of years, and possibly were versions of even older stories.

The earth is much older than we are, civilization existed before we have accurate history or knowledge of it and some trace back to those times.

I can’t get into specifics, it’s been too long since I studied it to be of any real use, but if you want to start digging it is an interesting rabbit hole if you have an open mind.

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TGC or TTC - History of the Bible: The Making of the New Testament Canon

The torrents are online if you (or OP) care for it. It's probably not has in-depth as a college lecture, but an interesting starting point to know if it's a rabbit hole you want to explore further.

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Manu times a proper informative survey of the subject matter is best.

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Why have so few of the Dead Sea Scrolls been released for public consumption and why are the ones that have been released generally ignored?

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KJV isn't perfect but it's the best we have.

Here's a list of verses that have been drastically altered in modern versions:

https://www.scionofzion.com/kjcomparisons.html (scionofzion.com)

As far as being based, KJV is the only version as far as I know that says effeminate men go to hell:

"Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 KJV

Compare with the NIV:

"Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:9‭-‬10 NIV

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Try the Berean Study Bible or NWT and you will never go back... The KJV is rife with translation errors, due to being translations translated from older translations... They even removed the name of God and replaced with "lord" []... Like for instance the addition of a Latin word "lucifer" and an entire false doctrine based on that error....

https://biblehub.com/bsb/1_corinthians/6.htm

https://biblehub.com/bsb/isaiah/14.htm

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BSB fails the Colossians 1:14 test and NWT is used by Jehovah's Witnesses. Gonna have to pass on both.

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If who printed the bible translation is a stumbling block for you, that is unfortunate... It does not matter who uses it IMO, the fact both are translated from the copies of the originals into the language being written is very important for my choice of bible. Not from hebrew/greek to latin to english things get lost in translation...

What is this Colossians 1:14 test your talking about because verse 15 to 23 will clear up a common doctrinal lie, so is it possible the test could be flawed especially if from those who push the common lie...

https://www.biblehub.com/bsb/colossians/1.htm

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Geneva is a good one Eth Cepher is a huge handful. You won't regret the purchase. https://www.cepher.net/

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How can a jewish book not be juden?

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Have you read the letters of the apostles? They pretty harshly condemn circumcising and the kikery of the jews at the time.

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Which of the 14 would you recommend?

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Galatians and Revelation(although it’s a bit heavy) Here’s some good excerpts: “Brothers and sisters, if I am still preaching circumcision, why am I still being persecuted? In that case the offense of the cross has been abolished. 12 As for those agitators, I wish they would go the whole way and emasculate themselves!”

Paul tells the priests to go mutilate themselves instead of other people.

Also in revelation it says they are they synagogue of satan, and that they worship their father the devil.

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Something translated from the original Hebrew and Greek... not translation of translations So the KJV is out as "accurate"... These are the ones I suggest NWT, Berean Study Bible.