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Regarding the question of whether there is a God, there are exactly two Logical positions.

  1. I know there is a God

  2. I do not know if there is a God

All other positions require Belief, and this definitely includes Atheism.

In addition to this simple axiom, there is also something else to consider:

If you are able to formulate the question of whether there is a God, there is an omnipresent candidate for God which can not be excluded.

Atheism is a dark and diabolical Mind Prison. To escape, just use the key of Logic to set yourself free and let your mind shine.

For the record: I posted this in s/Tellpoal. This is about Logic, and not the Social Construct of Religion.

Regarding the question of whether there is a God, there are exactly two Logical positions. 1. I know there is a God 2. I do not know if there is a God All other positions require Belief, and this definitely includes Atheism. In addition to this simple axiom, there is also something else to consider: If you are able to formulate the question of whether there is a God, there is an omnipresent candidate for God which can not be excluded. Atheism is a dark and diabolical Mind Prison. To escape, just use the key of Logic to set yourself free and let your mind shine. For the record: I posted this in s/Tellpoal. This is about Logic, and not the Social Construct of Religion.

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I admit I was misunderstanding your initial statement.

My funamental issue with your position is your proposed axiom. Specifically, you claim there are only two possitions: I know there is a God, or I do not know there is a God. Agreed. You then claim, in this axiom, that "All other positions require Belief."

I do not accept this axiom as true. On the contrary, taking the position that "I know a God exists" requires faith/belief. The only option which does not require belief is "I do not know if a God exists."

Hence, your initial assumption (axiom) is self-defeating. To accept that you know there is a God means you're believing something you cannot prove.

The fact that the formulation of the question means there will always remain a possibility that there is a God, does not necessitate that acceptance of knowing a God exists requires no belief.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

"I know a God exists" requires faith/belief.

False. God would know he exists.

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I agree a God would know he exists. You did not address the point. My statement was in reference to an individual, non-God entity. Ie. a human being.

I do not see how your statement addresses my claim that knowing a God exists is a belief; my counter-argument to your proposed axiom.

[–] [deleted] • 0 pt

I agree a God would know he exists.

Then you admit that Statement #1 is true. And statement #2 is true as well. You have proven my axiom solid.