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We're in a pretty good neighbourhood (average house prices $2 million plus... not ours - I wish - but others) and I remember talking to my postman a few years back. He was saying it was amazing that if you looked through many of the windows of the houses on his route, they were basically empty. They couldn't afford furniture. Also, always a pile of pizza boxes out every garbage day.

Two new leased BWMs in the driveway, two million dollar mortgaged house, but just scraping by. Barely.

Those people are fucked if this lasts very long. It could get very, very ugly. This isn't the sub-prime crowd of 2008. These are over-leveraged professionals who were just making it before Biden and Trudeau. (I'm in Canada.) What happens when they go under water?

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We're in a pretty good neighbourhood (average house prices $2 million plus... not ours - I wish - but others) and I remember talking to my postman a few years back. He was saying it was amazing that if you looked through many of the windows of the houses on his route, they were basically empty. They couldn't afford furniture. Also, always a pile of pizza boxes out every garbage day.

Two new leased BWMs in the driveway, two million dollar mortgaged house, but just scraping by. Barely.

This is why house prices go so high. Banks give loans that people can't afford then pass the loans to gov't orgs so they don't care if it never gets paid, the got paid. I've seen people tie up all their money in loans all the damned time. Boo hoo when interest rates go up and they owe more than they make.

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Boo hoo when interest rates go up and they owe more than they make.

I don't understand anyone who takes a variable rate loan of any sort. The interest rate for my mortgage is 2.6% and is fixed for the life of the loan. Doesn't matter if the Fed jacks rates to 20%, I'm paying 2.6%. My mortgage is also only about 1/8th of my monthly income after taxes.

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> I don't understand anyone who takes a variable rate loan of any sort.

The short of it is that, in some cases, it's MUCH cheaper. My last home mortgage was a 10:1 ARM (fixed for 10 years, then adjustable for the last 5 years) and I compared it against a fixed rate 30 year. The 10:1 would be paid off in 15 years with roughly 1/3rd the interest penalty if paid on schedule. The monthly cost was roughly the same (I think it was less than 1% different), but the Total out of pocket was significantly different.

The part that you must understand is that after 10 years of paying on the mortgage, when it adjusts, it does so on the remaining balance and there is a Maximum it can adjust in both a 1 year and a 3 year timeframe. In my case, the resulting (maximum) change in payment was something like $12/month. I didn't make it to 10 years before the loan was paid off.

Not all variable rate loans are the same though, you have to know what the fuck you're dealing with, but I've yet to meet a loan officer who wouldn't explain the differences. Mine was an "in-house" loan product of a small local bank (6 branches?)

I think the more important thing is the mortgage as a percentage of your disposable income. 12% is Amazingly low, we aimed for 20~25%, every lender in the country will allow 33% and we've been told we could get as much as 45% (800+ credit scores). Actually, our real goal has been to keep total expenditures under 50% our income.

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This is what I have to remind myself when I see people out there "making it"

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That's because we're right back at the Carter era of financial concern. Pepperidge Farm remembers.

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Glances at pile of money... When the hell will they start dumping assets at dramatic low prices?

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It has already begun.

Start shopping but accept only deals.

Deep discounts are already underway.

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The last real financial market collapse in Canada was during free trade in 1990 to 1992.

A modern 40 year old was only 10 years old at that time.

That means, about half of everyone who is now financially underwater has zero life experience of what this means and will be caught completely by surprise by our new rising interest rates / declining available credit market conditions.

Can you say bankruptcy and liquidations?

Cash is now king again. Credit is drying up fast.

Inventory must fight over the remaining cash in the system, so that means inventory sold well below cost in many cases. It is not so much about turning a profit as just keeping the doors open. Many of those doors will close anyways.

It's a good time to have cash, and a very bad time to be in debt.

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Cash is now king again.

And due to inflation, it's evaporating like ice cubes on a hot sidewalk.

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Yeah, it start's that way but it does a 180 if they stop printing money, (by raising interest rates,) where as it goes into Weimar wheel barrel hyper inflation if they keep printing more money, (aka Zimbabwe.)

They fear the hyper inflation more than the deflationary depression. Current economic wisdom says crush the inflation at all costs, so I expect rate increases to continue.

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For decades people have been trained by media Jew propaganda to go into debt and to live hand-to-mouth. They can barely get by each month. That was in the good times. Now that times are harder, they find that they can't get by at all.

It's hard to feel sorry for them. Someone should have read the fable about the "Ant and the Grasshopper" to them when they were children.

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Emergency fund is way too far up the stairs