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If you currently don't have silver coins, should you buy some now?

The answer is yes.

But not for the reason you might expect.

Silver is severely under priced at the moment, and all of the talk about silver shortages is basically bullshit. There is no sustainable shortage of real silver at this time, hence the price. Silver is now in surplus. There are reductions in refined silver bullion output of new coins and bars, but not enough to radically alter the price.

This is not why you should buy the silver coins.

The powers that be - Aka central banking globalists - are moving on our personal bank accounts - and introducing new digital currency systems, with associated cash control systems. They are moving for complete control over the access to your money. They will also be looking to completely phase out cash.

We have seen the tyranny of restricting our access to communications and freedom of speech. Now they want to restrict our access to our own wealth. This system, just as the other, will of course be abused just as soon as it is operational.

This is where silver coins come in. On the street, a silver one ounce coin will always retain a trading value. These coins may become the default black market currency under the new financial regime. They will become the only real cash available, and we will always have a need for money, especially with our black markets.

You can get 50 coins right now for roughly $1000. A one troy ounce, 0.999 silver coin, of nearly any vintage, is basically interchangeable for any other. At the current price - between $20 to $25 each, they are already at a bargain basement price. You are not buying them as an investment. You hold them against currency collapse, or an attempt to take the system cashless and shut us out of our own economy.

They are insurance.

Put them in a sock and hide them under your bed. Don't keep them in a bank or other institution.

If you currently don't have silver coins, should you buy some now? The answer is yes. But not for the reason you might expect. Silver is severely under priced at the moment, and all of the talk about silver shortages is basically bullshit. There is no sustainable shortage of real silver at this time, hence the price. Silver is now in surplus. There are reductions in refined silver bullion output of new coins and bars, but not enough to radically alter the price. This is not why you should buy the silver coins. The powers that be - Aka central banking globalists - are moving on our personal bank accounts - and introducing new digital currency systems, with associated cash control systems. They are moving for complete control over the access to your money. They will also be looking to completely phase out cash. We have seen the tyranny of restricting our access to communications and freedom of speech. Now they want to restrict our access to our own wealth. This system, just as the other, will of course be abused just as soon as it is operational. This is where silver coins come in. On the street, a silver one ounce coin will always retain a trading value. These coins may become the default black market currency under the new financial regime. They will become the only real cash available, and we will always have a need for money, especially with our black markets. You can get 50 coins right now for roughly $1000. A one troy ounce, 0.999 silver coin, of nearly any vintage, is basically interchangeable for any other. At the current price - between $20 to $25 each, they are already at a bargain basement price. You are not buying them as an investment. You hold them against currency collapse, or an attempt to take the system cashless and shut us out of our own economy. They are insurance. Put them in a sock and hide them under your bed. Don't keep them in a bank or other institution.

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Gotta bunch of junk silver.

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Good start. Getta safe.

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I have a small lockbox. Have Mountain House food as well.

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Also good for werewolves and many other supernatural foes.

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I think this post is has value and certainly something to do.

What I suggest in addition is to buy fractional weight bars/coins as well as the 1oz such as, 1gram, 2.5gram 5oz 10oz. Many items you will want to trade will be under the 1oz value the coins hold as well as have higher weighted bars, 5oz 10oz etc. You don't want to carry all of these coins around when trading so carrying less coins/bars is ideal.

You don't really want to be trading in 1oz coins/bars that often as that will draw attention and they may assume you have more of those fresh coins at your home. Consider buying jewelry think of bracelets, rings, earrings, necklaces that can be unlinked and those individual links can be traded.

Keep your receipts for all gold/silver purchased as it's likely the police will pull you over or search your home and once they find your stash of metal, they will likely confiscate it saying it's not normal for someone to keep such a high amount of metal and thus you must be doing something illegal. They will need to see proof that you've purchased it, so you can show them the receipts.

I also suggest buying US, Canadian, Australian minted coins and bars.

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If you are looking for transactional silver the 90% quarters and dimes appear to be the way to go. I would assume that would look like you scrounge.

Edit: slim chance copper rounds take off as well.

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I saw a film about the IMF Argentina currency collapse.

The economy crashed, (was shut down by the central bankers,) people couldn't access their private bank accounts, but the farmers markets were very busy.

Gold wedding rings were treated as equal in value by the food vendors as a currency, even as their gold value radically differed from ring to ring. These become the main default currency of the markets, and business carried on. One difference being the government could no longer collect taxes from the vendors.

In Greece, when the same type of restricted currency limited private account withdrawal controls were implemented, again by the central banks, and again crashing the local economy, Greek citizens were able to do an end run around the local controls, somewhat, by using foreign issued credit cards to conduct local transactions. In many ways, the effects of the bank controls, while still very serious, were less impactful than the Argentina collapse as a result.

Under the new digital currency system, credit card and debit card access will be frozen along with personal bank account access.

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When?

See you guys tomorrow.

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Argentina started late 1998 through about 2002

Greece was 2009 through 2018.

I think I saw that Argentina film back around 2000.

Our new digital systems are being quietly installed right now.

Liberals are saying vaccine passports will be necessary to access private bank accounts.

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as a silver stacker, I'm sorry but you're incorrect about people accepting chain links.

fractional silver 90% coins are recognised and easily bartered with.

anything else is too easily faked. therefore exchanges will only accepted at extremely reduced prices.

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I've purchased a good amount since January, another purchase coming. 👍

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Silver < Bullets

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One is not exclusive of the other.

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Money wasted on silver is bullets you don't own though...

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Buy silver bullets. If you never need them, you have the silver. But if bullets are what you need you’ll be glad to have them

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True, but it can also be used to buy more bullets.

I am pro bullet.

Bullets are not the focus of my note is all.

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You should convert all of your wealth into Bitcoin.

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One solar flare wipes electronic currency from the planet.

I don't trust bitcoin to secure my wealth.

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I'm guessing you don't have much wealth to secure anyway.

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Well, certainly not in my bank account.

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Always maintain a suicide stack of metals. It's never a bad idea. Good advice.

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They move on my personal bank account or anything of mine, I move on them.

Y'all are a bunch of faggotty, jew grabblers.

You seriously think they don't know about hoarding silver coins, that's the game changer you've got up your sleeve. lol

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Of course they know, silver ownership is older than Judaism.

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Lets talk about how a gov't backed insider corp owns the majority of silver?

Lets talk about how they took a finite market and offer fake paper to suppress the price?

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There's lots of global sources of silver. Several countries use it as the primary asset to back their own currencies.

Silver production is more often a byproduct metal from other metal mining operations, such that the majority of silver produced each year is as a byproduct metal, as opposed to metal specifically mined in a silver mine. As a result, annual silver production is greatly tied to the global industrial demand for metals in general, as opposed to silver mining specifically.

One consequence of this is silver production cannot be controlled by market forces. Only silver purchasing and trading can be influenced by market forces. Due to the high number of national central banks that use silver as their primary tier one national asset, no single bank or groups of banks, regardless of size, can control the market price of silver through cornering the market.

There are huge reserve stockpiles of silver in multiple locations that are not traded on the daily markets. Nor are these stockpiles counted as available silver. Whenever the price of silver ranges too high, some of these stockpiles have been known to flood the market with additional silver. As such, the situation contributes to preventing any one party from cornering the market. You would need very deep pockets indeed to even attempt to do so.

So, this is the true situation of silver. Big players do control the majority of silver ownership. The big players, however, are not all working together. Many do not get along so well with the globalists anyways. There is diversity of ownership of the major stockpiles that actually keep the silver price close to it's actual fair market price. There is so much surplus silver that vast stockpiles are not even traded at all. This is not hording behavior per say. It is the true situation that taking the silver price even lower brings no viable gains. They are better off not trading at this time, so they don't.

Of course, if the world was to return to a gold standard, and that just might happen, then there is a very real shortage of global silver, and holders of silver stockpiles come out as the big winners. Despite the vast size of the current silver surplus, it is doubtful that it could satisfy the global need for currency without equally vastly inflating the price of silver to match the potential demand. The same price revaluation would also be needed for gold, as in, actual physical gold would have to be repriced at millions of dollars per ounce if we tried to use it to cover the current currency in circulation plus the electronic currency in the various banking systems. You can see just how badly our global fiat currencies have devalued in real purchasing power when you attempt to do this math.

While paper gold is definitely used to suppress the price of gold as a deliberate act, paper silver is not needed to keep the price of silver suppressed. Paper silver is used mainly as a trading convenience between major parties across financial borders, specifically for the China trade laws. Paper gold was invented for this purpose as well, but since has become the primary tool the banks use to suppress gold prices. Suppressing gold prices also has a natural suppression effect on silver prices. They don't need paper silver to suppress silver prices. The world has surplus silver to such an extent that much of it isn't even on the market.

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Well thought out reply, thx..

holding 100oz myself btw.. but the whole situation is fucky..

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Paper silver is market distortion. Period.

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What's the spot like these days?

A major turn off for me was the price of metals is the price (((bankers))) get them for. Not you. So some kike is making money off you and you are in the negative on your purchase right away due to paying the price over spot.

Plus about a million scare-mongering commercials ranting about gold and silver, cringey.

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The 10:00 am silver fix spot price at Kitco was US $22.64

Probably retails somewhere around $26 to $27 today at local dealers.

Lets see - JMBullion has maple leafs in stock at $27 and change - with eagles at nearly $32 (that mint coin shortage I mentioned above somewhere.) Their JMBullion 10 ounce bar is at $263

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For someone who has never purchased silver, how do you go about learning enough to not get scammed?

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I got into it when COVID tanked metals in March/April. If I wasn't so broke at the time I would have purchased WAYYYY more. It's not that complicated if you keep it simple.

For all PM products there are only 2 variables that determine value/cost. There is SPOT and PREMIUM. Spot is that raw metal value, if you melt it down how much X do you have. And premium is the extra on top of that. If you have a melted blob of silver and the same weight in a nice new shinny silver eagle. The eagle has "artistic" value over the blob and so it has a premium value above it's spot price. The blob should never have a premium and only the bare spot value. I bought capsules for all my coins, and avoided touching them because finger prints leave oils that will create imperfections. I'm not putting them in a sealed inert gas container at -40f. But I want them to remain and clean and new as possible to retain their premium value. But I have some which I do not protect also.

Also with PMs, if it's a round disk like a coin there are COINS and there are ROUNDS. A coin is made by government banks and is legal currency. While rounds are not and are usually made by very reputable companies all the way down to backyard hobbyists who melt down scrap silver or gold. Coins should have a higher premium than rounds. Coins also are treated at face value when crossing the border. I flew with over €10k in PM recently but I had it all counted out and the face value was something stupid low like a few hundred €. They tried to make a fuss but eventually the older supervisor knew what was up. That's because they were all COINS and not ROUNDS or BARS.

You can buy them online. If you find a good local dealer it's probably best. If you can get a relationship with them and know the market values you should get a better deal locally. For the rest of us there are some good online dealers which are blowing up on popularity.

Provident Metals and SDBullion are both good choices. They'll come by mail in discreet packages, I never buy more than 500.00 or so at a time so the packages are small and innocuous.

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Thank you.

Would you mind sharing which online dealer you like most?

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Provident Metals and SDBullion are both good choices. They'll come by mail in discreet packages, I never buy more than 500.00 or so at a time so the packages are small and innocuous.

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You need to deal with a reputable dealer. Internet discussion is usually best for checking out those nearest to you.

At $20 an ounce, there's simply not a lot of incentive for silver scammers, although it has occurred in the past. It's just not really profitable. When it does happen it is usually the larger bars. Fake gold is much much more common among scammers.

I usually stick to national mint coins from reputable dealers - like maple leaf bullion coins from the Canadian mint authorized distributors. However, with silver especially, there are many private bullion coin mints out there making their own 1 ounce silver rounds and bars of equal quality to that of any of the national mints.

Reputable dealers have a lot to lose should their reputation become tarnished, which is so easy to happen in our internet era. That means if you do have a problem, they will usually make it right. With these guys, silver is usually the bottom tier asset they handle anyways. The big money is in gold, platinum, etc. You don't trade that hard earned reputation for some lowly fake silver profits.

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Ok thank you. So just search for an authorized dealer.

Buy in smallest coins possible for increased trade potential?

I never considered buying it because I can't eat it. But your idea is sound in needing an alternative currency when they take the bank access. So thank you, again.

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You can buy silver in all different sizes and shapes, but the one troy ounce coin is the most common international silver bullion minted product. After that it is probably the large silver bars.

The one troy ounce coin is the rough equivalent to the original Spanish piece of eight silver ounce coin in 1700's use as a global trading currency. The original US dollar was first issued against this currency. That's why the original quarter dollar was also known as two bits = one quarter of eight bits. This was done to give the US dollar legitimacy as an international trading currency. The US dollar could be exchanged at the mint for one ounce of silver bullion, on demand.

You can buy the coins individually. However, tubes, (or sleeves,) of 25 coins are very popular, as are boxes containing multiple tubes of coins. As with anything else, quantity earns a small discount on your per unit price, not to mention your per unit shipping costs.

.999 refers to the purity of the silver. Some mints refine silver coins with other metals mixed in. So you can get say .997, or .500. The Kennedy half dollars were .500 silver I believe, (50% silver.)

I stick to bullion coins, and .999 fine purity. This is the best you can get and is the most common modern standard.

Numismatic coins are a different animal entirely. They are minted with a dollar denomination stamped on the coin - so it has a numerical dollar value on it's face as well as a metal content value. Numismatic coins, theoretically, are for use as coinage in the general day to day economy. Their metal content is often mixed with other metals, like steel, aluminum, nickel, or copper, even tin. The idea is to improve their durability. These are the coins that coin collectors commonly buy and trade. Like stamp collectors collect stamps. Many numismatic coins go from production straight to the collectors, which also happens in the stamp world.

The numismatic coin's value tends to increase over time, especially with limited production runs. However, the value also degrades with the loss of fineness of the coin over time, and numismatic coin trades are usually taxable.

Bullion, on the other hand, is simply just metal. The fineness is important, and quality of appearance is nice, but bullion coins generate no collector premium values unless they are very old and very rare, like old Roman coins, or recovered Spanish treasure bullion. Bullion is often tax exempt for purchasing and trading, including across many borders, (but certainly not all.) Bullion trading is very heavily regulated in India, for example.

With bullion coins, what you are paying for is the metal itself. With the right equipment, you could melt down a silver Canadian .999 maple leaf bullion coin, and forge an American .999 silver eagle coin. They have the same metal content, and usually sell for a similar price..

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