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Everything you try to “debunk” about Flat Earth is a straw man.

Every “proof” for a round spinning ball earth you offer rests on assumptions you can’t prove from authorities you shouldn’t trust.

even though it is constantly itself discredited and heavily censored on YouTube and Google, denounced by sitting presidents, and every celebrity who ever gives it any credence is .

Everything you try to “debunk” about Flat Earth is a straw man. Every “proof” for a round spinning ball earth you offer rests on assumptions you can’t prove from authorities you shouldn’t trust. [HURR DURR Flat Earth is a psyop to discredit other conspiracy theories](https://www.dailydot.com/wp-content/uploads/da3/7b/7dbffb772e1729f5049b8a1e7d83b7db.jpg) even though it is constantly itself discredited and heavily censored on YouTube and Google, denounced by sitting presidents, and every celebrity who ever gives it any credence is [forced to summarily apologize and shill for the globe](https://sports.yahoo.com/stephen-curry-talked-retired-nasa-astronaut-spreading-conspiracies-can-dangerous-000228152.html).

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Shit mane if the earth is flat, get a telescope and tell me what I'm eating right now.

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You can’t see infinitely. There’s stuff in the way. Not only physical barriers but gases and pollutants in the “atmosphere.”

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Are you implying you can't see through an atmosphere you doubt exists since you put it in quotations?

I'm all for the government skepticism because they've lied about so many other things but you can physically see the ocean fall off from the shoreline. I'll have to believe the round earth one on this one.

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It’s not an atmosphere if there is no sphere.

the ocean fall off from the shoreline

Huh?

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Professor Dave? Really?

Really?

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Would you feel better if someone else was presenting the same ideas? Go to different countries and look at the moon. Go to different countries and look at the stars over time and note rotation. Look at direct airline flight times. Better?

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When morons can't refute the message, they attack the messenger. OP is a moron.

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What does any of that have to do with anything? How could any of that not be consistent with a Flat Surface?

If the universe were expanding we wouldn’t be looking at the same constellations people have noted throughout human history.

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If the earth is a flat disk, how is it that i can stand in Antarctica on December 21st and observe the sun circle around my head? I have multiple friends who have worked at different stations there who have all confirmed this to be the case.

If the earth were a flat disk and the sun spiraling overhead between the tropics, wouldn't the southern summer solstice be the day when the sun is both closest to an Antarctic observer (at local noon) but also the furthest? (At local midnight)

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You’ve never been to Antarctica.

https://youtu.be/kUB92m3Pvcg

And no one said earth was a disc.

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I've been close enough to the arctic in June when the sun doesn't set for months. I've also been there in December when the sun never rises months. The Northern lights (Aurora Borealis) are beautiful. The difference between the piddly ones you see further South and in the far North is similar to the difference in seeing stars from inside a big city vs. seeing the stars out on the ocean with no land in sight.

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Have you been to Antarctica? I have not been there, but as i stated before i have several friends who have worked Antarctic summers at McMurdo and other bases. Each has told me in detail about the experience, and I have specifically asked about the sun. You could probably get a job there too if you wanted to see the circling sun for yourself.

I watched the video you posted and have seen that clip dissected by Flat Earth Advocates before- the actual cut is right about 1 minute into the original clip, at about 4:42 of the video you posted, and it uses a fade transition. You can see a vehicle suddenly appear in the background. It was an editing choice for the film that clip comes from to start and end at the mountain. You might find that misleading and I find it unnecessary, but lucky for you there are plenty of unedited versions of similar clips on youtube you can watch. Now let's just say that you reject them all and claim they are all faked or are lacking in sufficient evidence to demonstrate a circling sun. If that is the case then my question is this- What level of evidence would you need in order to accept that the sun circles around an observer in Antarctica during its summer? Would you believe it if you saw it in person? Would you believe it if a close friend or family member of yours saw it in person?

All that being said, I don't think the circling Antarctic sun is the definitive last word in dismantling Flat Earth Cosmology- it has several other major conflicts with simple observations.

The Earth is a sphere, and you're retarded for thinking that we're living on a fucking disc.

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Black science guy says it's not a sphere but an oblate spheroid; however, all the "pictures" we are shown are of spheres.

Idk I like tide pods n turtles

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I didn’t say we live on a disc, and you can’t show even one actual proof that you live on a ball without appealing to authority, begging the question, or engaging in some other fallacy.

Everything you try to “debunk” about Sphere Earth is a straw man.

Every “proof” for a flat disc earth you offer rests on assumptions you can’t prove from authorities you shouldn’t trust.

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Hm, sounds familiar.

Sure. I'm a skeptic, I trust nobody.

But I do trust my own observations. As a former mariner, I can tell you that climbing a mast causes distant objects to "rise" over the horizon as you would find with a ball Earth.

As a former RADAR tech, I can tell you that putting an air-search RADAR antenna at the top of a 300' mast increases the range of the RADAR as compared to the same radar and same antenna on a 150' mast. That difference pushes the horizon back about 6 miles. Nothing crazy, but for an air search radar that is specifically looking above the horizon, it translates to 2,160 miles of previously unobservable sky.

Also noticeable was passing over the equator on a sail around South America. I've seen the sky from two oceans, three if you count the Antarctic waters as their own ocean, and the change in scenery is precisely what you would expect to see standing on a ball spinning in space. The sun, the moon, the stars, the planets, the entire view of space is altered in exactly the way you would expect on a sphere.

These are direct observations. I needn't offer special explanations for these observations, if I'm on a sphere. I would need to come up with a number of mitigating explanations to come up with standing on a flat Earth, to explain what I was observing.

I choose the simple explanation. I choose the explanation that doesn't seem to have any skin in the game. Flat Earth seems to often be the theory of fundamentalists, required for a literal interpretation of the bible and other ancient texts. Fundamentalists require Earth to be flat so as not to have their worldview challenged. They have skin in the game. Something to lose.

Flat Earth theories are nothing more than religious apologetics, and prime LARP material for trolling forums.

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I lol at globetards

Really what does it matter to an individual anymore. You aren't going to sail a ship. You aren't going to build anything that takes it into account.

You're so fucking retarded, you're almost not worth challenging.

One of the cool things about growing up with a Naval Nav. Officer as you dad is very early, before I could even understand it, he would tell me and later show me how in class, his professor would give them the homework "ok practice navigating from say, a port to another port across the planet.

And my dad would have to calculate all the minute turns and changes to the trajectory because, it turns out you cant just beeline in a straight line with a ruler on the map and a bearing and heading, BECAUSE the planet is a sphere and you'd end up way off course. So you have to literally apply mathematica to plot your course accurately across the sphere.

Not to mention how he would tell me he would stand on watch and observe ships show up top/mast first over the horizon.

I'm fully aware that some people's mental illness is deep, and there is no saving them. This is just some stranger on the internet validating that you are indeed, a macro-faggot.

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That’s funny because here’s a US Navy submarine chief officer saying there is no curvature involved in navigation.

https://youtu.be/dFi98T8phoI

Here’s a Naval officer saying the same thing

https://youtu.be/on67TAPYbhA

And here’s a bonus US Army air traffic controller saying the same thing.

https://youtu.be/cGVX7P_Eq0Y

Enough with the basic bitch bullshit, it’s been debunked a million times, they follow the laws of perspective and the same phenomenon can be replicated on a perfectly flat and level floor. Also ships can be brought back into view with a zoom lens after going over the horizon.

https://youtu.be/QqnzVOqW4Js

Your dad should have probably spent more time paying attention to the vagaries of the sea rather than down in the crew deck giving hand jobs.

Yeah 5 guys against all of navy men and airmen ever.

It's okay, you'll be iron'd out of existence by one of nature's filters. I did my part 🤷‍♂️

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For fuck's sake, it takes two minutes to disprove this round earth bullshit. Observe:

https://www.flightsfrom.com/JNB/SYD https://www.flightsfrom.com/JNB/LHR

Since literally fucking anyone can buy two flights and confirm flight duration, including thousands of members of the public, for a tiny monetary investment, there are exactly three possible answers:

1: Australia is a government conspiracy. 2: Airline companies routinely gas their passengers to prevent them from knowing that time is passing.. 3: Wakanda is real, and uses its advanced Wakandan technology purely to provide high speed planes to airlines travelling between southern hemiflat destinations in order to maintain illusion that the two destinations are a similar distance from one another.

In any case, checkmate, ball lovers, flat earth confirmed.

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Thanks for the snark and 404 shit links.

Here’s an actual link that shows how flight routes/times in the Southern Hemisphere do not support a globe.

https://youtu.be/Pzo8pgW9wfU

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https://www.flightsfrom.com/JNB

Here you go, fellow believer, I'll take it on faith you're more capable of successfully clicking on two locations than deleting four letters. Eleven hours to London, eleven hours to Sydney, Flat Earth doubly confirmed, you just need to look past the conspiracy. Trust the youtubers! Definitely don't actually check yourself and fuck every single world government for trying to trick everyone!