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Opium is a powerful drug. There's always that one retarded cousin at the party that can't handle his high. "Fuck yo' ceiling Hakim!"

Not that it really matters, but it's not a .45. Your sentiment is still valid though. For anybody that cares, based on what I could make out it looks like a Pakistani copy of the Yugo M57 pistol (you could just make out the frame mounted manual safety for a second),which is itself a modified copy of the Russian made TT-33 (which was a copy of John Browning's blowback operated FN Model 1903 semiautomatic pistol). https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Yugo_Tokarev_M57.jpg/1280px-Yugo_Tokarev_M57.jpg

Update: Based on the slide shape it might be a chinese made Type 54 pistol, or a Paki copy of one: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b9/ChineseType54Pistol.jpg

Chambered in 7.62x25mm Tokarev (a copy of the 7.63×25mm Mauser, which was the hottest pistol caliber in the world until the .357 Magnum in about 1934). A common velocity for military FMJ out of that pistol would be around 1,450fps, with about 401ft/lbs of energy, although some new commercial loadings like Wolf Gold FMJ top out at about 1,720fps, with 570ft/lbs, as does PPU ammunition and the Reed's Ammunition 85gr Hornady XTP-HP. Needless to say, it's a little hotrod of a round.

(Retired SF 18Z/18B. I still have an M57 that I used to carry back in the day, because it was the only pistol cartridge that I had tested that, because of it's velocity and relatively smaller frontal surface area, would punch straight though a kevlar helmet.)

Thanks for the clarification and additional info. I’m far from an expert, but could easily see it was a chambering a larger round…just didn’t realize it was that large.

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Smaller caliber, lighter bullet at higher velocity. 7.62x25mm Tokarev = .311 caliber, 85-90 grain bullet at 1,300-1,700fps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/7.62%C3%9725mm_Tokarev

Versus a larger, heavier bullet at lower velocity. .45 ACP = .45 caliber, 230 grain bullet at about 850fps https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.45_ACP

Different design philosophies.

I stand corrected.

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How does that compare to 10mm?

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Different design philosophies. There's only just so many ways of skinning the ballistic cat. Powder charge is constrained by case volume. Lighter bullets give higher velocity and smaller caliber have less drag. But they also shed that velocity/energy faster, where heavier bullets have more inertia, but greater frontal surface area, therefore more drag. All of this represents an attempt at greatly simplifying a subject that has been at the heart of firearms research since the very beginning. The desire to deliver a useful amount of energy to a target and doing a useful amount of damage at a useful range. The search for the "magic bullet" continues apace. The terrain is strewn with the corpses of cartridge designs.

The original 10mm Auto load was a .40 caliber, 200 grain bullet at about 1,200fps. Another attempt to square the circle. I had one of the first of the Colt Delta Elite pistols and noticed frame rail cracks appearing all to soon. It is a powerful round that flat beat the shit out of auto pistols at the time, as the FBI found out with the S&W 1076. But it also had the unfortunate characteristic of being too powerful for female agent candidates to qualify with at the academy. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/10mm_Auto