I'm not on the east coast. I was using it as an example, I live in the midwest where things are super-cheap, and you're still not paying the rent on what you're working for at McJob. Most of the places here are paying $15, but you're not getting hours so you're working multiples and hoping you can schedule each one around the other, and that you don't spend more in gasoline than you're getting paid. Don't even think about medical insurance.
I have had recruiters calling me to move halfway across the country for a job in a warehouse. That's fucking stupid and anyone that thinks you're going to move for a McJob is out of touch.
My point is that there aren't any jobs out there, at least no more than there were before. No shortages, just the same old tired employers hollering about how they can't find people but when they do they're so inflexible they fire you for the smallest thing and then complain about how they can't find people.
Sounds crazy... Let me ask you a question. Would you drive around vaccuming shit out of septic systems for $28/hr? Because apparently that job pays pretty fucking good and I have a buddy that can't find people to do that either.
Don't get me wrong, I think we are tugging on the same thread here in a lot of respects. I see your point on benefits or pay to help with insurance etc... Let's be honest though, decent healthcare is nearly impossible for 90% of the country regardless of the job. The costs are skyrocketing as we speak and it's useless if you do have it with the amount they charge for deductibles etc...
I agree on the jobs being out there, I also agree with those being the same jobs, with this current administration I don't see that changing for the better though.
These people facing eviction after all this time haven't made any moves though? Come on now. If a decent, motivated person wants to avoid being in that situation, it's very easy to do. I just feel like it requires more effort then they are willing to put in with the handouts Uncle Sam is shilling them.
Yes, I would. That's more than I make as a skilled tech. Not much more, but a little more.
Let me ask you this. Does your friend look for people that are willing to come in to the business with no skills? Will he train them with a promise like "I pay you $22 now, after 6 months of satisfactory performance I pay you $28?" That's a job where you need some sort of medical insurance, is there any offered? A good wage doesn't mean shit when you have to put out $400 a month for a poor insurance plan. Does he have a reputation for being a hardass that runs through people? Will he help them get the CDL they probably need for trucks? Or does he expect people to walk in the door at 110% in an area where he's already run through the available candidates? Is he even marketing the job? Part of hiring people is finding them, they're not coming to you unless they know about you. Is he even in an area that has the kind of people he needs? Would he be willing to help someone qualified move there to take the job?
There's lots of factors in why you can't find someone at a decent rate. The pay is good, there's some other reason he's not getting people.
There is a lot of workplaces that do not provide medical coverage these days for the same reason of cost... Those that do, typically have pretty sub par plans for the cost.
I would have to ask him specifics on the job. I know from the last time we talked he did say he would train and help get them to that capacity at the same wage. He just can't seem to get anyone motivated enough to take the job or stick with it.
It's gotta be hard to provide on the job training and pay for certifications etc... When individuals just burn you a month into it, a business can't even absorb the costs at that point for that type of turnaround. One issue I've seen more prevalently over the years is the younger generations are very entrenched in the ideals of entitlement.
They feel they are owed the world and don't need to have to work for advancement. There is a lot of the, "I have a degree, so I'm an expert" mentality out there but there is also a lot of kids that have and are growing up without ever having to experience earning something or working for it. Participation award winners that never experienced loss before might be another driving factor, who knows.
I feel like there is a lot of opportunities out there for those who are willing to seize the chance and are willing to humble themselves even for a short time.
I appreciate the back and forth though, like I said I think you have some very valid points and it seems like we see eye-to-eye on more than we don't. I wish you the best of luck!
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