Oh, is that the same as a 1 hour video condensed and summarized for a layperson audience? No, it fucking isn't. Your bullshit analogy is garbage.
Lo-fucking-l!
It IS the same as your measley 1 hour video because IT IS EVIDENCE, and there's a lot of it. PLUS these videos ARE dissected and splayed out for the leyman.
Dont be sad you only brought 1 link of a 1 hour video to the trenches and now youre out gunned.
And it seems you dont even understand what a metaphor is because I offered you a "counter-argument". It wasnt a metaphor, it was a warning to you that if were going to debate using the words and findings of others, then you will have MUCH more watching and refuting to do than I will.
If this was a debate on stage or a court case - and you were making your argument (which you did when you posted your 1 hour long video) - and then I got up and made my argument, I would throw all the evidence needed to succeed... Hours and hours of it - all filled with experts and professionals in the fields I outlined before.
Not just ONE 1 hour long video.
Can you imagine basing the meaning of your entire life on a 1 hour youtube video?
You cant just go around picking and choosing which reality you believe in because it has been conveniently condensed and made easily digestible for your feeble 2021 electronic addled brain equipped with limited attention span - you fucking dullard!
Thats downright laughable.
Sorry to introduce reality into your black and white binary mind, but history is murky
You try so hard to insult me, but its just a rehash of r/atheism edgelords.
Binary mind - ahhh it was a good one, I should feel the sting except the mountain of mushrooms and acid I took in my 20s tells me you're just not happy with yourself and youre lashing out at random people to pass the human time you've deemed as meaningless.
But flip the coin and here I am doing about the same thing - but with love in my heart for you, Im talking like a shithead but I grew up with 5 brothers, so this is normal brotherly behavior.
Maybe were supposed to be talking?
Anyways, give it to me good faggot!
No punches pulled!
It IS the same as your measley 1 hour video because IT IS EVIDENCE, and there's a lot of it. PLUS these videos ARE dissected and splayed out for the leyman.
Telling me I have to watch 72 hours versus 1 hours is the same thing. Sure thing, jackass.
it was a warning to you that if were going to debate using the words and findings of other
As I said, this is where we all start from unless we're experts. You don't have a counter-argument to that.
then you will have MUCH more watching and refuting to do than I will
No, you're just being unreasonable. I could tell you to read Richard Carrier's book, which punches in at over 700 pages. Instead I linked to an easily digestible 1-hour video that summarizes the main points. If you had a 1-hour video to offer in return, or any reference that attempted to debate Carrier's points, we'd be on even ground. But you're trying to win the argument by acting like a jackass.
Can you imagine basing the meaning of your entire life on a 1 hour youtube video?
I was an atheist many years before I saw this video. Whether Jesus was based on an actual historical figure or not is an intellectual curiosity, nothing more, since I've already rejected the mythology, and what we're left with is debating just how much reality is left once you strip away all the nonsense.
You try so hard to insult me, but its just a rehash of r/atheism edgelords.
I'm not trying hard to insult you. I'm accurately describing your failures that lead to incomprehension of reasonable statements. It was you that decided to try to mock me because I'm not 100% sure about poorly documented events from over 2,000 years ago. You haven't said a single thing of substance.
Telling me I have to watch 72 hours versus 1 hours is the same thing. Sure thing, jackass.
Well you specified no rules, so your prosecution rested at 1 comment with a 1 hour long video and my defense could have thrown hours long video links that were "easily digestible", but I still only jokingly remarked so.
So lets get back on topic.
Without the use of anyone else's words, why dont you think Jesus or God are real?
It can be short, but it should be your words.
Because even agnostics can imagine "a galanctic machine core which manages energy and mass" as part of some existential quatum theory.
Well you specified no rules
I don't have to specify rules that are common sense. It's not unreasonable to ask somebody interested in a topic that people have spent entire careers on to watch a 1 hour video summarizing a position. It IS unreasonable to question my open-mindedness while refusing to watch said video, and instead first handwaving, and then coming back with a 72-hour jackass retort.
Without the use of anyone else's words, why dont you think Jesus or God are real?
We've been over this and you have no counterargument. Given that neither of us our experts in the history of Jesus, our starting position has to be the information conveyed by experts. I can put it in my own words, but I'm only summarizing what's in the video. If you want the full argument, you have to watch the video.
In short, Jesus Christ is just one more dying and rising personal savior god that was in vogue for the region at the time. I could instead ask you why you don't believe Osiris was a real, historical figure. The Christian gospels are mythology written centuries after the fact., and so are not reliable evidence. The references in historical documents like Josephus are either fraudulent or rely on the beliefs of Christians. And the earliest documents like the letters of Paul relate his visions of Jesus -- that is, revelations, not the teachings of an actual preacher.
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