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Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain. Frederic Bastiat,

Socialism, like the ancient ideas from which it springs, confuses the distinction between government and society. As a result of this, every time we object to a thing being done by government, the socialists conclude that we object to its being done at all. We disapprove of state education. Then the socialists say that we are opposed to any education. We object to a state religion. Then the socialists say that we want no religion at all. We object to a state-enforced equality. Then they say that we are against equality. And so on, and so on. It is as if the socialists were to accuse us of not wanting persons to eat because we do not want the state to raise grain. Frederic Bastiat,

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>confuses the distinction between government and society

The same could be said about statists in general, and roughly half of westerners tbh, if not 3/4, and they aren't necessarily left wing btw

That being said you have a lot of "shitholes" where only a small minority believes in .gov, and it's not new. Shit has never been performing well at any point in their history, so it doesn't come as a surprise. Now, .gov isn't some sort of magical thing from a parallel dimension. More often than not, couple of exceptions aside of course, it's built and maintained by the very same population it is ruling over... So there's that. It's like culture, japanese culture for instance, it didn't fall from the sky.

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Sounds like bullshit to me. Some people can survive without help from others. And some people are to weak to survive without help. Government today is to protect those that can't do for themselves. We could kill them all and solve a few problems

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>Some people can survive without help from others.

Everyone needs to sleep...

First of all there's a difference between to live and to survive... Maslov pyramid and shit. One can hardly take care of the farm all by himself, unless the so called farm is a bunch of chickens and potatoes around a fireplace and the modern equivalent of a mud hut. And of course it would be unfortunate if that single individual broke his back because of a stupid fall while working on the said farm. And that's not taking into account the security shifts... You know, that moment when you need to sleep... That moment all predators around you are waiting for.

Anti gov people have at least one thing in common with so called socialists they hate so much; both are advocating for a social order they never lived under, and a social order that systematically looks like absolute crap every time it's been tested IRL

It's not just my opinion, it's a fact. Show me one country without government where everything's just fine or just better than the country you live in. Same deal with socialism, everywhere it's been tried it's an absolute mess

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Sounds like cope to me.