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So our perception is one thing, but reality is another, and they have to make things look a certain way to fool the deep state while they are getting their hammers ready. OK let’s run with that for a moment. Here’s the problem: All of the things he is saying to bridge between perception and what he is calling reality are bridges they used constantly for “happenings” that never actually happened.

I’ll just take one. The idea that Trump waits until the very last minute to do things, to spring traps, etc. OK that was the excuse for why Fauci wasn’t fired. He still hasn’t been fired. That was the excuse for why he didn’t secure the elections in a very public way. Well look what happened. That was the excuse for why we had to wait until the sixth because everyone was going to get arrested right before or on the sixth. That never happened. That was excuse for why we had to wait until the next day, because for some unknown reason the National Guard was going to let all of the politicians go home and then arrest them the next day.

They run these things like seasonal promotions and they never happen. Remember the hot August or whatever it was? July? Remember the Christmas miracle? Remember the arrests in November that we talked about for the last three November? The exact same set of excuses were used for why those things we’re going to be pushed back. They got pushed back and pushed back until they just completely and quietly disappeared. No acknowledgment whatsoever of the failure of the prediction. But we better believe the next one or we are communists.

They keep coming up with excuses/reasons that sound fairly reasonable if any would ever actually happen. They keep using these “reasons“ every single time they make a prediction, and then it falls through, they reason their way into pushing the date back. Things that make logical sense if they are real.

But then they use more excuses for the next prediction. And then that one keeps getting pushed back. And then it goes away silently. They never admit they were wrong, they just jump on the next happening that never happens. Then when it doesn’t happen when they say it will, they use more bridges to keep pushing that one back. Then that one goes away quietly. They don’t say anything, never admit they were wrong, they move onto the next happening. And on and on and on and on.

Here is the bottom line. Results. Results matter. None of the things they’ve ever said about arrests or major sweeping changes, none of this stuff has ever happened. Not. Once. Not once. I don’t wanna hear about low level lawyers and city councilmen and mayors getting arrested. This is what they say to “prove” that arrests actually are happening despite the fact that no one important has been arrested. Because they are pretending now that when Q promised boom boom boom, it was the mayor of fucking Toledo and not Hillary Clinton John podesta or Joe Biden or Barack Obama.

Arrests of dirty government officials, government agents, etc. are actually lower under Trump than most of the previous six administrations. So that blows that up.

And why do you need a team of super spy secret agents for that? Stop pretending that the promises made weren’t huge. They were. Nothing huge has happened. At all. Not once. It would be more believable if these excuses that you make even once turned out to justify something that actually happened. But it justifies pushing things back that never happened. So when I see the exact same excuses again because you only have about six in your toolbox, that’s a giant red flag this is just another thing that will never happen. Just stop lying. Just stop.

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So our perception is one thing, but reality is another, and they have to make things look a certain way to fool the deep state while they are getting their hammers ready. OK let’s run with that for a moment. Here’s the problem: All of the things he is saying to bridge between perception and what he is calling reality are bridges they used constantly for “happenings” that never actually happened.

I don't follow the Q movement. Though I find it somewhat interesting I never trusted the whole thing. So regarding "happenings" that didn't actually happen I am unaware of specifics because I do not trust in men. I trust in God only. That being said, if you read the title "I want to believe...I honestly do..." expresses not in an implicit but rather direct way the wishful thinking that I had after reading the post. That doesn't make me a useful idiot nor a liar. It just makes me a wishful thinker.

Should I be cautious on what is being said? Of course, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice for everybody to see it unfold in that way.

I’ll just take one. The idea that Trump waits until the very last minute to do things, to spring traps, etc. OK that was the excuse for why Fauci wasn’t fired. He still hasn’t been fired. That was the excuse for why he didn’t secure the elections in a very public way. Well look what happened. That was the excuse for why we had to wait until the sixth because everyone was going to get arrested right before or on the sixth. That never happened. That was excuse for why we had to wait until the next day, because for some unknown reason the National Guard was going to let all of the politicians go home and then arrest them the next day.

You are right on your statements there, nothing to argue there. There has been a continuous trend to move the goal posts I agree. But would still prefer to believe that there is still hope. Call me an optimistic or whatever you want to. In mho I still would want to believe that hope remains despite the fact that odds are against that. After all I am a Christian, if something I know is that the odds are* against my faith, my brethren and I (the true ones not the pro satanic israel false prophets). We will be pursued by the world that surrenders to the false doctrines spread by the synagogue. But that doesn't takes away my faith, as it doesn't take away my believe in hope.

I have always addressed the Trump presidency as the last breath before it all starts going downwards real bad. I stand by that, I was hoping to see 8 years of him, not just four, hence the wishful thinking. If he doesn't end up doing a second term, then I will move on and continue the struggle that this world has for my brethren and me. That doesn't change it.

They run these things like seasonal promotions and they never happen. Remember the hot August or whatever it was? July? Remember the Christmas miracle? Remember the arrests in November that we talked about for the last three November? The exact same set of excuses were used for why those things we’re going to be pushed back. They got pushed back and pushed back until they just completely and quietly disappeared. No acknowledgment whatsoever of the failure of the prediction. But we better believe the next one or we are communists.

I don't think that the skeptics on the Q movement, myself included because I don't trust it, nor its critics are communists. I actually believe that they are both needed in order to be able to maintain caution, specially nowadays. But in the end, I leave everything in God's hands. Whether the pedo Biden crime family comes to power or whether Trump keeps the presidency (odds are that he won't) the daily struggle continues.

The default arguments that both sides resort to are to be honest just opposite faces of the same coin. I could turn your statement on saying that if "they don't stop believing in Q they are idiots, they are useful idiots" and so on and so forth. Why is it important for you to have them admit they were wrong? Won't life show them that in due time if that is the case? Why is it so prevalent in a lot of people to try to diminish accomplishments because they were not the ones everybody expected? Weren't expectations higher than the promises? And didn't them got higher as the goal post kept moving forward?

They keep coming up with excuses/reasons that sound fairly reasonable if any would ever actually happen. They keep using these “reasons“ every single time they make a prediction, and then it falls through, they reason their way into pushing the date back. Things that make logical sense if they are real.

They have a right to believe what they want, and wish what they want, They have a right to try to sort things out in their own way, each one of them. Whether they fit your perspective or the one of the other critics or not. They have that right.

But then they use more excuses for the next prediction. And then that one keeps getting pushed back. And then it goes away silently. They never admit they were wrong, they just jump on the next happening that never happens. Then when it doesn’t happen when they say it will, they use more bridges to keep pushing that one back. Then that one goes away quietly. They don’t say anything, never admit they were wrong, they move onto the next happening. And on and on and on and on.

Well if they are lying to themselves, they will eventually come to terms with it. And move on. If not and continue in that path, it will be their own doom. But if they are only wishing while keeping their feet on the ground that doesn't affect them in any way nor you nor any one else. Besides the continuous reeing of the vast majority of critics that fail to articulate their disbelief and just spew insults and tantrums. And if they are in the end right, then it will be good for all of us, to a certain extent.

Here is the bottom line. Results. Results matter. None of the things they’ve ever said about arrests or major sweeping changes, none of this stuff has ever happened. Not. Once. Not once. I don’t wanna hear about low level lawyers and city councilmen and mayors getting arrested. This is what they say to “prove” that arrests actually are happening despite the fact that no one important has been arrested. Because they are pretending now that when Q promised boom boom boom, it was the mayor of fucking Toledo and not Hillary Clinton John podesta or Joe Biden or Barack Obama.

Well I keep my stand on the fact that expectations got higher than the promisses and kept building up after each goal post got moved. And hence the disappointment got even harder. While some boast on the fact that the promisses were not kept, others hang on the fact that they were partially kept.

If you ask me if I blindly believe in Trump, I would answer that I do not. He has done a few things I do not agree with, specially with signing the foreign aid for the covid relief bill. But that doesn't mean that there wasn't partial promises kept.

And why do you need a team of super spy secret agents for that? Stop pretending that the promises made weren’t huge. They were. Nothing huge has happened. At all. Not once. It would be more believable if these excuses that you make even once turned out to justify something that actually happened. But it justifies pushing things back that never happened. So when I see the exact same excuses again because you only have about six in your toolbox, that’s a giant red flag this is just another thing that will never happen. Just stop lying. Just stop.

Some were, but expectations were bigger. No one is lying to you when expressing a wishful thinking and the fact that you default to that because you are a fierce critic of the movement, puts you on the same coin that I talked about before.