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https://www.cnet.com/news/8chan-4chan-endchan-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-image-boards/?ftag=CAD1acfa04&bhid=26141276005236669172945346450375#

Notes: 8 chan owner JIm Watkins goes before the House Committee on Homeland Security today. The outcome of this may affect if this chan goes back online or not.

Meanwhile, many of us have migrated to Endchan. which seems relatively shill-less, to date.

A rash of recent postings that may be related to mass shootings has put a spotlight on loosely moderated messaging sites, known as chan boards or image boards. While many people who visit these sites simply share memes and discuss video games, the sites have also become a gathering place for white supremacists and right-wing nationalists who take advantage of the freewheeling and anonymous nature of the boards.

The anything-goes attitude has led chan boards to become swamps of hateful commentary. Suspected shooters have used the sites to post manifestos outlining racist beliefs. One board in particular, 8chan, has become a magnet for these posts. Its owner, Jim Watkins, is set to appear privately before the House Committee on Homeland Security on Thursday. Watkins has said he's kept the site offline voluntarily since the Walmart shooting massacre in early August in El Paso, Texas. In the meantime, 8chan users have posted on other boards and attempted to create their own versions.

8chan owner Jim Watkins 8chan owner Jim Watkins.

Screenshot by CNET The focus on 8chan, which allows people to post anything as long as it is legal in the US according to its FAQ, is understandable. The man accused of killing 22 people at the Walmart in El Paso has been linked to an anti-immigrant manifesto posted to 8chan. Posts tied to the New Zealand mosque shooting in March and the San Diego-area synagogue shooting in April were also made on 8chan.

The site isn't alone, though. Hundreds of these boards exist, and they're relatively easy to build for those familiar with creating websites. A user of 4chan, one of the oldest chan boards, posted details of Jeffrey Epstein's jail suicide a little more than a half-hour before the news appeared on any mainstream sites last month. A Norwegian man accused of attempting to shoot a mosque near Oslo last month posted a link to livestream of his act to Endchan, another board. Administrators of the site say the post was removed immediately.

Here's what you need to know about chan or image boards and the people who use them.

Who's the typical poster? It's hard to know exactly. But if 4chan is our guide, a typical poster is the sort you'd probably expect: young and male. A 4chan advertising page says roughly 70% of its users are males, and most have had some college education. It lists 18- to 34-year olds as its demographic. Almost half of its users are in the US, followed by the UK, Canada and Australia. Many express an interest in anime, video games and technology.

Those numbers don't capture the entire population of chan board users. A lot of people use chan boards, which let you post anonymously, to discuss issues related to being LGBT or to share amateur artwork. Some are into dressing up as anime, video game or comic book characters and posting photos of their outfits. And, of course, there are the loud, hateful trolls.

Why are chan boards controversial? Let's get one thing straight: lots of chan boards are nothing more than a place for people with an intense interest in a subject to swap thoughts. If you've got a passion that's an inch wide and a mile deep, you might find a community of kindred spirits on a chan board. But because chan boards are loosely moderated and provide anonymity, they've also become a breeding ground for hateful ideas and bullying behavior. And they've spawned some illegal activity.

anonymous-logo The logo for the hacker group Anonymous.

Anonymous. Anonymous, the hacker collective, started out on 4chan and takes its name from the anonymity the site offers users. The group's first major hacking operation, Project Chanalogy, started in 2008 and took on the Church of Scientology. That same year, University of Tennessee student David Kernell posted screenshots showing his hacking of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's email account to 4chan.

Chan boards don't require users to create accounts, which is a big draw. Each user can create a numbered thread or reply to one. No names are needed. Like other websites, however, users leave digital breadcrumbs, such as IP addresses, that are recorded.

Some chan boards, like 4chan, store this information so it can be retrieved later. The site has worked with the FBI on multiple occasions, providing needed information in some criminal cases. 8chan owner Watkins also confirmed his site admins worked with law enforcement following the recent mass shootings. In a statement to the House Committee on Homeland Security published Wednesday, he said the site has complied with 56 law enforcement requests in 2019 alone.

Back up a bit. Where did all this start? Chan boards started in 1999 by a Japanese student living in Arkansas. In fact, the "chan" in chan boards comes from 2channel, or 2chan for short, which was an anonymous Japanese text board. It was created by Hiroyuki Nishimura, who was a student at the time at the University of Central Arkansas. Its popularity was partly due to its anonymous posting that allowed people living in Japan to vent their frustrations without the worry of humiliation.

2chan's success inspired a 15-year-old Christopher "Moot" Poole to create 4chan at his New York City home in 2003. As 4chan grew in popularity, some people began conducting illegal activities such as swapping stolen personal information and posting child pornography. This attracted the attention of law enforcement. Poole cracked down in 2014, driving many users away. Poole sold 4chan to Nishimura in 2015 and has since begun working at Google.

Chris Poole 4chan creator Chris Poole speaks at the TechCrunch Disrupt conference in 2010.

Getty Images One of those former 4chan users, Fredrick "Hotwheels" Brennan, said he envisioned an alternative during a psychedelic mushroom trip in 2013. He called his site Infinitechan, which later came to be known as 8chan because the figure 8 is the symbol for infinity flipped. The board got little attention until 2014, when 4chan started cracking down on posts about GamerGate, a controversy over video game culture's treatment of women that became an online proxy for the culture wars.

Brennan sniffed an opportunity and banged the drum for users to head to 8chan. They did. The surge in traffic caught the attention of Watkins, who had acquired 2chan from Nishimura in 2014. Watkins and Brennan worked together on 8chan from the Philippines until 2016, when Brennan disassociated himself from the site. He has since called for the site to be shut down.

Fredrick Brennan 8chan Fredrick Brennan created 8chan but now regrets it.

TED ALJIBE/AFP/Getty Images 8chan has been down since just after the El Paso massacre, though Watkins has promised it will go live after his Sept. 5 meeting with the House Committee on Homeland Security. In a statement to the committee published Wednesday, Watkins said he has "no intention of deleting constitutionally protected hate speech."

What are some of the popular boards? Are they safe? 4chan continues to be the most popular of the image boards, which are sites that require you to post an image to start a discussion thread. It receives more than 27 million unique visitors per month, and it's ranked in the world's top 1,000 websites, according to analytics site Alexa. 8chan's popularity has waned since the initial surge in 2014. And there are many other derivative chan boards, such as Endchan, 7chan and Dreamchan. None match 4chan's popularity, but some have active, if small, communities.

Visiting a chan site is usually harmless. Still, it's best to proceed with caution. Some users disguise links in their posts that might take you to a site that infects your computer. There's also a possibility of coming across disturbing content. So exercise common sense when browsing through posts.

Originally published Sept. 5 at 5 a.m. PT. Update, 7:31 a.m. PT: Adds statements from Watkins.

2 Comments − Avatar KraftWerker • an hour ago Seriously, what is Congress going to do? Will moderation be required to increase to a specified level? How often is not enough? Ask Facebook how many things slip past moderators for days before they are identified and pulled. Any legislation will be knocked down by SCOTUS because any level of moderation is moderation and no increase of scanning guarantees improvement. As long as sites remove content that is not Constitutionally protected, neither Congress nor the Courts have standing to shut down the sites nor force removal of remaining content. Since society has placed targets on such sites, I would advise sites to pull content such as manifestos and forward them along with matching IP addresses to the FBI for analysis. Personally, I think rants of disturbed individuals should be allowed to remain among other posts while the FBI performs its analysis of whether flights of fancy are credible threats and thereby actionable. With the availability of burner phones and VPN services, I wish authorities luck in identifying any individual in advance of an activity.

Share › − Avatar james_72 • 4 hours ago Possible? I guess you missed the several times these shooters posted their manifesto's before going on their rampages.

https://www.cnet.com/news/8chan-4chan-endchan-heres-what-you-need-to-know-about-image-boards/?ftag=CAD1acfa04&bhid=26141276005236669172945346450375# Notes: 8 chan owner JIm Watkins goes before the House Committee on Homeland Security today. The outcome of this may affect if this chan goes back online or not. Meanwhile, many of us have migrated to Endchan. which seems relatively shill-less, to date. A rash of recent postings that may be related to mass shootings has put a spotlight on loosely moderated messaging sites, known as chan boards or image boards. While many people who visit these sites simply share memes and discuss video games, the sites have also become a gathering place for white supremacists and right-wing nationalists who take advantage of the freewheeling and anonymous nature of the boards. The anything-goes attitude has led chan boards to become swamps of hateful commentary. Suspected shooters have used the sites to post manifestos outlining racist beliefs. One board in particular, 8chan, has become a magnet for these posts. Its owner, Jim Watkins, is set to appear privately before the House Committee on Homeland Security on Thursday. Watkins has said he's kept the site offline voluntarily since the Walmart shooting massacre in early August in El Paso, Texas. In the meantime, 8chan users have posted on other boards and attempted to create their own versions. 8chan owner Jim Watkins 8chan owner Jim Watkins. Screenshot by CNET The focus on 8chan, which allows people to post anything as long as it is legal in the US according to its FAQ, is understandable. The man accused of killing 22 people at the Walmart in El Paso has been linked to an anti-immigrant manifesto posted to 8chan. Posts tied to the New Zealand mosque shooting in March and the San Diego-area synagogue shooting in April were also made on 8chan. The site isn't alone, though. Hundreds of these boards exist, and they're relatively easy to build for those familiar with creating websites. A user of 4chan, one of the oldest chan boards, posted details of Jeffrey Epstein's jail suicide a little more than a half-hour before the news appeared on any mainstream sites last month. A Norwegian man accused of attempting to shoot a mosque near Oslo last month posted a link to livestream of his act to Endchan, another board. Administrators of the site say the post was removed immediately. Here's what you need to know about chan or image boards and the people who use them. Who's the typical poster? It's hard to know exactly. But if 4chan is our guide, a typical poster is the sort you'd probably expect: young and male. A 4chan advertising page says roughly 70% of its users are males, and most have had some college education. It lists 18- to 34-year olds as its demographic. Almost half of its users are in the US, followed by the UK, Canada and Australia. Many express an interest in anime, video games and technology. Those numbers don't capture the entire population of chan board users. A lot of people use chan boards, which let you post anonymously, to discuss issues related to being LGBT or to share amateur artwork. Some are into dressing up as anime, video game or comic book characters and posting photos of their outfits. And, of course, there are the loud, hateful trolls. Why are chan boards controversial? Let's get one thing straight: lots of chan boards are nothing more than a place for people with an intense interest in a subject to swap thoughts. If you've got a passion that's an inch wide and a mile deep, you might find a community of kindred spirits on a chan board. But because chan boards are loosely moderated and provide anonymity, they've also become a breeding ground for hateful ideas and bullying behavior. And they've spawned some illegal activity. anonymous-logo The logo for the hacker group Anonymous. Anonymous. Anonymous, the hacker collective, started out on 4chan and takes its name from the anonymity the site offers users. The group's first major hacking operation, Project Chanalogy, started in 2008 and took on the Church of Scientology. That same year, University of Tennessee student David Kernell posted screenshots showing his hacking of Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's email account to 4chan. Chan boards don't require users to create accounts, which is a big draw. Each user can create a numbered thread or reply to one. No names are needed. Like other websites, however, users leave digital breadcrumbs, such as IP addresses, that are recorded. Some chan boards, like 4chan, store this information so it can be retrieved later. The site has worked with the FBI on multiple occasions, providing needed information in some criminal cases. 8chan owner Watkins also confirmed his site admins worked with law enforcement following the recent mass shootings. In a statement to the House Committee on Homeland Security published Wednesday, he said the site has complied with 56 law enforcement requests in 2019 alone. Back up a bit. Where did all this start? Chan boards started in 1999 by a Japanese student living in Arkansas. In fact, the "chan" in chan boards comes from 2channel, or 2chan for short, which was an anonymous Japanese text board. It was created by Hiroyuki Nishimura, who was a student at the time at the University of Central Arkansas. Its popularity was partly due to its anonymous posting that allowed people living in Japan to vent their frustrations without the worry of humiliation. 2chan's success inspired a 15-year-old Christopher "Moot" Poole to create 4chan at his New York City home in 2003. As 4chan grew in popularity, some people began conducting illegal activities such as swapping stolen personal information and posting child pornography. This attracted the attention of law enforcement. Poole cracked down in 2014, driving many users away. Poole sold 4chan to Nishimura in 2015 and has since begun working at Google. Chris Poole 4chan creator Chris Poole speaks at the TechCrunch Disrupt conference in 2010. Getty Images One of those former 4chan users, Fredrick "Hotwheels" Brennan, said he envisioned an alternative during a psychedelic mushroom trip in 2013. He called his site Infinitechan, which later came to be known as 8chan because the figure 8 is the symbol for infinity flipped. The board got little attention until 2014, when 4chan started cracking down on posts about GamerGate, a controversy over video game culture's treatment of women that became an online proxy for the culture wars. Brennan sniffed an opportunity and banged the drum for users to head to 8chan. They did. The surge in traffic caught the attention of Watkins, who had acquired 2chan from Nishimura in 2014. Watkins and Brennan worked together on 8chan from the Philippines until 2016, when Brennan disassociated himself from the site. He has since called for the site to be shut down. Fredrick Brennan 8chan Fredrick Brennan created 8chan but now regrets it. TED ALJIBE/AFP/Getty Images 8chan has been down since just after the El Paso massacre, though Watkins has promised it will go live after his Sept. 5 meeting with the House Committee on Homeland Security. In a statement to the committee published Wednesday, Watkins said he has "no intention of deleting constitutionally protected hate speech." What are some of the popular boards? Are they safe? 4chan continues to be the most popular of the image boards, which are sites that require you to post an image to start a discussion thread. It receives more than 27 million unique visitors per month, and it's ranked in the world's top 1,000 websites, according to analytics site Alexa. 8chan's popularity has waned since the initial surge in 2014. And there are many other derivative chan boards, such as Endchan, 7chan and Dreamchan. None match 4chan's popularity, but some have active, if small, communities. Visiting a chan site is usually harmless. Still, it's best to proceed with caution. Some users disguise links in their posts that might take you to a site that infects your computer. There's also a possibility of coming across disturbing content. So exercise common sense when browsing through posts. Originally published Sept. 5 at 5 a.m. PT. Update, 7:31 a.m. PT: Adds statements from Watkins. 2 Comments − Avatar KraftWerker • an hour ago Seriously, what is Congress going to do? Will moderation be required to increase to a specified level? How often is not enough? Ask Facebook how many things slip past moderators for days before they are identified and pulled. Any legislation will be knocked down by SCOTUS because any level of moderation is moderation and no increase of scanning guarantees improvement. As long as sites remove content that is not Constitutionally protected, neither Congress nor the Courts have standing to shut down the sites nor force removal of remaining content. Since society has placed targets on such sites, I would advise sites to pull content such as manifestos and forward them along with matching IP addresses to the FBI for analysis. Personally, I think rants of disturbed individuals should be allowed to remain among other posts while the FBI performs its analysis of whether flights of fancy are credible threats and thereby actionable. With the availability of burner phones and VPN services, I wish authorities luck in identifying any individual in advance of an activity. Share › − Avatar james_72 • 4 hours ago Possible? I guess you missed the several times these shooters posted their manifesto's before going on their rampages.

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chan == channel derived from the irc (internet relay chat) days. which by happen chance still exist. you can find a safe board here with lots of channels freenode.net our channel is #qanonresearch (commonly dont use a password)

other channels not so safe. be careful and learn ur opsec.

o7 Endchan.net/qanonresearch

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Thanks for your reply.

You might want to find some articles about this and submit them.

We've got all kinds of people on here, with different knowledge and experience levels, and this information would be relevant, especially with the fate of 8 chan staying closed permanently or not.

Thanks for all that you contribute here on POAL.