Comments from a forum about Bezmeno's ideas and vids. https://www.politicsforum.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=174024 KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA Moderator: PoFo Today's News Mods Forum rules Search this topic… 51 posts 1 2 3 Next SHARE TOPIC User avatar KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929139 By The Sabbaticus - 30 Jun 2018 19:58 Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts equal or more then 4000 Posts equal or more then 10000 Pro-American propaganda, warning, or combination of both? 29 YEARS AGO, Soviet defector and KGB operative Yuri Bezmenov, specializing in the fields of Marxist-Leninist propaganda and ideological subversion; warned us about the silent war being waged against America as part of a long term plan to take over and destroy the American system and way of life. Watch this clip in AMAZEMENT as you realize he is describing EXACTLY what's happening in America today, where by Obama and his gang of Marxist usurpers who now have control of your government are just the culmination of a very long term plan, but are the ones who are about to bring it into fruition. Bezmenov was born in 1939 in Mytishchi, near Moscow to a high ranking Soviet Army officer. At the age of seventeen, he entered the Institute of Oriental Languages, a part of the Moscow State University which was under the direct control of the KGB and the Communist Central Committee. In addition to languages, he studied history, literature, and music, and became an expert on Indian culture. During his second year, Bezmenov sought to look like a person from India; his teachers encouraged this because graduates of the school were employed as diplomats, foreign journalists, or spies.[2] As a Soviet student, he was also required to take compulsory military training in which he was taught how to play "strategic war games" using the maps of foreign countries, as well as how to interrogate prisoners of war.[2] Someone stole my sig. Forum-autist, coming through! "Ack-Ack-Ack!" User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929151 By ThirdTerm - 30 Jun 2018 22:12 Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts between 2000 and 4000 I think his cunning plan failed to materialize and it was the Soviet Union which was gradually infiltrated by American propaganda, especially after the Carter era. Russians started to question the legitimacy of the Soviet government and love America's freedom. Some American Communists were Soviet spies who were working for Moscow and far-left groups on campus were funded by Moscow to bring about a Communist revolution in America. Nowadays, there are concerns that Chinese students and academics might exploit access to universities to gather intelligence and sensitive research, while U.S. lawmakers are pushing for the China-funded Confucius Institutes to be more tightly regulated or closed down. Moscow, Russian Federation, 18 September 2012 – The first-ever Web publication of previously secret U.S. documents on Soviet dissidents, matched with reports and letters by the dissidents themselves from the Memorial Society Archives in Moscow, illuminate the landmark turning point during Jimmy Carter's presidency in the late 1970s when U.S. policy first elevated human rights concerns, and the dissidents led the international movement that discredited Soviet claims that attention to such issues was "interference in internal affairs." The rise of Soviet dissent in the 1960s and 1970s played a catalytic role in the transformation of human rights into an international norm of expected state behavior, according to the newly-published documents; and while Soviet repression succeeded in the short term in exiling or imprisoning most of the leading dissidents, the resulting legitimacy deficit contributed to the collapse of the Communist system at the end of the 1980s. The documents published today include highest-level memoranda to President Carter from his top advisers Zbigniew Brzezinski and Cyrus Vance, CIA assessments of the dissident movement and the Soviet government's reactions, and U.S. National Security Council discussions of the issue. The Memorial documents include contemporaneous reports written by dissidents such as Moscow Helsinki Group co-founder Lyudmila Alexeyeva about specific arrests, trials, and repressions - often in the form of personally-addressed letters to President Carter requesting U.S. attention to the issues. Veterans of the Soviet dissent movement will join representatives of Memorial and the National Security Archive for a public discussion and reception at the Memorial building in Moscow (Karetny Ryad, No. 5/10) at 6 p.m. on September 18 to mark the launch of the Web publication - which appears in Russian on the Memorial Web pages and in English and Russian on the National Security Archive Web pages. https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/NSAEBB/NSAEBB391/ Image LET'S MAKE THE WORLD GREAT AGAIN TOGETHER! Давайте вместе снова сделаем мир великий! User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929155 By One Degree - 30 Jun 2018 22:38 Posts equal or more then 4000 Posts equal or more then 10000 I hardly think the plan failed when you look at the Socialists movements in the US, Europe, Latin America, etc. They also support globalism. The world was very close to becoming globally socialist. It may still be. If you don’t think the liberal movements aren’t backed by a plan for world socialism, then you are not paying attention. Granted even that is a ruse to get support for totalitarianism, but that is how you manipulate the masses to give up their freedom. I dream of the United Citystates of Earth, where each Citystate has a standardized border such as one whole degree of Latitude by one whole degree of Longitude. User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929157 By Beren - 30 Jun 2018 22:52 Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts equal or more then 4000 Posts equal or more then 10000 I wonder whether what ideology Moscow supports worldwide now. It's hardly Marxism. :lol: Image User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929158 By Albert - 30 Jun 2018 23:02 Posts equal or more then 4000 I think this guy is bullshitting and just trying to profit by conspiracy theories like Alex Jones. The American political left has its history prior to Cold War. I seriously doubt it is a creation of KGB like he claims. Me, well I used to be known as Plaro.... User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929171 By quetzalcoatl - 01 Jul 2018 02:34 Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts equal or more then 4000 One Degree wrote: I hardly think the plan failed when you look at the Socialists movements in the US, Europe, Latin America, etc. They also support globalism. The world was very close to becoming globally socialist. It may still be. If you don’t think the liberal movements aren’t backed by a plan for world socialism, then you are not paying attention. Granted even that is a ruse to get support for totalitarianism, but that is how you manipulate the masses to give up their freedom. Support for internationalism is not limited to the left. The Libertarian Party, which for decades has functioned as the ideological vanguard for transnational capital, has as its three main ideological pillars the following: 1) Free movement of goods across national borders. 2) Free movement of capital across national borders. 3) Free movement of labor across national borders. So, as you can see, both traditional socialism and capitalism, are intrinsically globalist in nature. Populist movements on the right (and to a lesser degree, left-populism) oppose the movement towards globalization. There is a decentralist/distributionist movement within socialism, but it's orthogonal to both traditional neoliberalism, orthodox socialism, and establishment Republican and Democratic views (all of which are globalist). Beyond that, there's a minor troglodyte anti-globalism based on ignorance: NWO, Illuminati, Jewish banking cartel, and anti-Fed conspiracy theories. These are incoherent rightist memes, propounded as distractions from the real material interests at work. As long as there are boot-lickers and boot-stompers, fascism will never die. User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929176 By One Degree - 01 Jul 2018 03:11 Posts equal or more then 4000 Posts equal or more then 10000 quetzalcoatl wrote: Support for internationalism is not limited to the left. The Libertarian Party, which for decades has functioned as the ideological vanguard for transnational capital, has as its three main ideological pillars the following: 1) Free movement of goods across national borders. 2) Free movement of capital across national borders. 3) Free movement of labor across national borders. So, as you can see, both traditional socialism and capitalism, are intrinsically globalist in nature. Populist movements on the right (and to a lesser degree, left-populism) oppose the movement towards globalization. There is a decentralist/distributionist movement within socialism, but it's orthogonal to both traditional neoliberalism, orthodox socialism, and establishment Republican and Democratic views (all of which are globalist). Beyond that, there's a minor troglodyte anti-globalism based on ignorance: NWO, Illuminati, Jewish banking cartel, and anti-Fed conspiracy theories. These are incoherent rightist memes, propounded as distractions from the real material interests at work. I did not mean to indicate it was a strctly leftist goal. There seems to be a lot of ‘liberals’ who don’t understand they are pursuing international ‘socialism’ and very effectively. They don’t seem to see the connection even though it is in plain sight. I am not even sure a division between the right and left is actually in competition for internationalism. I think the left is simply being manipulated into pursuing a self defeating agenda because it is easier to organize the left to accomplish capitalists goals. This hints at conspiracy, but I just see it as the natural culmination of heirarchy and competition for power. The game is based upon producing a winner, so I don’t see it as a conspiracy when we point out the game was almost over. Populism arose at a very convenient time, which historically something always does eventually to derail global conquest. Then someone starts again. It is in the structure of governing and humans. The ideology is irrelevant. I dream of the United Citystates of Earth, where each Citystate has a standardized border such as one whole degree of Latitude by one whole degree of Longitude. User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929182 By quetzalcoatl - 01 Jul 2018 05:05 Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts equal or more then 4000 One Degree wrote: There seems to be a lot of ‘liberals’ who don’t understand they are pursuing international ‘socialism’ and very effectively. I'm unclear what sense you are attaching to the broad umbrella term "socialism," so I can neither argue for or against this proposition. If you are giving "socialism" the broadest possible meaning, from Debs to Trotsky, then the West has had nothing but various degrees of socialism since the last Great Depression - and arguably even earlier. Your argument would be much more effective if narrowed down a bit. What resting point are you hoping to bring the socialist train to a stop? Pre FDR? Pre-LBJ? As long as there are boot-lickers and boot-stompers, fascism will never die. User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929214 By SolarCross - 01 Jul 2018 13:15 Membership Days equal or more then 2555 Posts equal or more then 4000 So Joe McCarthy was right after all. Image He should get a posthumous knighthood or however else Americans use to honour patriots. Image The solution to 1984 is 1973! User avatar RE: KGB DEFECTOR YURI BEZMENOV'S WARNING TO AMERICA#14929216 By One Degree - 01 Jul 2018 13:21 Posts equal or more then 4000 Posts equal or more then 10000 quetzalcoatl wrote: I'm unclear what sense you are attaching to the broad umbrella term "socialism," so I can neither argue for or against this proposition. If you are giving "socialism" the broadest possible meaning, from Debs to Trotsky, then the West has had nothing but various degrees of socialism since the last Great Depression - and arguably even earlier. Your argument would be much more effective if narrowed down a bit. What resting point are you hoping to bring the socialist train to a stop? Pre FDR? Pre-LBJ?