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Yes, we all learned about the American Civil war when we were kids, but were never taught anything about Russia's powerful navy playing a pivotal role in preventing the Anglo-French alliance from interferring in the Civil War which could have broken the Union. Most Americans don't even know that when the Russian Navy came to New York, they actually paraded right on Broadway Avenue in front of thousands of welcoming and cheering Americans. Just imagine how the world would be so different today if the US and Russia were allies.

As to your excellent question, "So do you think Putin/Trump camp were working together. "

I thought about it as a possibility in 2018 when they were both at the Helsinki summit. You remember this when Putin passed a soccer ball to Trump. I laughed so much when Trump started railing at the FAKE NEWS Media that was present, then in passing said, "you don't have fake news in Russia" and Putin smiled then with a smirk said, "Oh yes we do!"

The idea that Trump and Putin made some secret deal to destroy the DS persists in my mind to this day. Trump could keep his hands clean while Putin did what had to be done. Was this a contingency plan if Trump was out of the White House? Could be. Since Biden is occupying the WH all the mess happened under his watch and not Trump's. Trump does not have to condemn Putin, he just criticizes Biden instead. There is no question that Trump and Putin hit it off well and I believe that Putin had hoped that he could really negotiate a deal to solve the NATO encroachement along the Russian border. Remember when Trump said that he was going to pull the US out of NATO? The Deep State operatives panicked. I think that Trump was testing for a reaction on whom would scream the loudest and I suspect that Putin had a good laugh about it.

You must remember when Adam Shiff was having a panic attack, when he demanded to know what Putin and Trump discussed in private at the Helsinki summit. That confirmed that the DS for once were kept in the dark. Shiff even threatened to question Trump's interpreter which he had no authority to do. That was very telling, being that there is no question as to whom Shiff's loyalties are given. Remember that Shiff's sister is married to George Soros' son.

Now that the conflict in Ukraine is in full force, the DS has been trying to cripple Russia in any way that they can. The destruction of Nordstream One and half of Nordstream Two with explosives was true desperation by the DS and all it did was give cold homes to the EU this winter. The destruction of these pipelines can also be considered an act of war, trying to provoke the patience of Russia. The Russian Federation has many other trading partners around the world they really don't need the West. The DS has been planning this conflict for a long time with Russia and they did it by threatening Russia's security using NATO expansion. Remember many years ago when President George W. Bush announced that they were going to setup missile bases in Poland? I was saying NO, NO, NO, not this! That was DS agression against the Russian Federation. Russia was not threatening anyone, they were still struggling to get back on their feet with their new Free Market economy along with repaying their restructuring loans to the Rothschild banking cartel. After the fall of Communism in the Soviet Union, the Cold War was over, but the DS was desperate to find a new way to maintain distrust between the US and Russia to prevent any alliance between our two nations. The DS knows that if the Russian Federation and the United States ever became allies as they once were during the times of the Czars, it would be the end of NGOs, protracted wars all around the world, unwanted regime changes in weaker countries, and the destruction of the evil and corrupt banking cartels along with the execution of all the treasonous traitors in the US.

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You remember this when Putin passed a soccer ball to Trump. I laughed so much when Trump started railing at the FAKE NEWS Media that was present, then in passing said, "you don't have fake news in Russia" and Putin smiled then with a smirk said, "Oh yes we do!"

That's one of my favorite Trump memories.

The idea that Trump and Putin made some secret deal to destroy the DS persists in my mind to this day. Trump could keep his hands clean while Putin did what had to be done. Was this a contingency plan if Trump was out of the White House? Could be. Since Biden is occupying the WH all the mess happened under his watch and not Trump's. Trump does not have to condemn Putin, he just criticizes Biden instead. There is no question that Trump and Putin hit it off well and I believe that Putin had hoped that he could really negotiate a deal to solve the NATO encroachement along the Russian border. Remember when Trump said that he was going to pull the US out of NATO? The Deep State operatives panicked. I think that Trump was testing for a reaction on whom would scream the loudest and I suspect that Putin had a good laugh about it.

I love to think this is the case - and it DOES make sense.

Remember that Shiff's sister is married to George Soros' son.

I forgot about that - important.

The DS has been planning this conflict for a long time with Russia and they did it by threatening Russia's security using NATO expansion. Remember many years ago when President George W. Bush announced that they were going to setup missile bases in Poland? I was saying NO, NO, NO, not this! That was DS agression against the Russian Federation. Russia was not threatening anyone, they were still struggling to get back on their feet with their new Free Market economy along with repaying their restructuring loans to the Rothschild banking cartel. After the fall of Communism in the Soviet Union, the Cold War was over, but the DS was desperate to find a new way to maintain distrust between the US and Russia to prevent any alliance between our two nations. The DS knows that if the Russian Federation and the United States ever became allies as they once were during the times of the Czars, it would be the end of NGOs, protracted wars all around the world, unwanted regime changes in weaker countries, and the destruction of the evil and corrupt banking cartels along with the execution of all the treasonous traitors in the US.

True. NATO's a nasty piece of work and needs disbanded. Remember when Putin made the statement about BGO reneging on their agreement and pointing missiles at Russia and Putin said something to the effect that he no longer trusted what was in those missiles? It was clear that Putin knew exactly what was up and was intent on stopping it.

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Yes, I do remember about the betrayal with the missiles when Putin said that "we trusted them and they cheated, they lied to us." Putin afterwards had to setup missile bases as well to counter the NATO incursion. Russia was not threatening anyone. Its so easy to understand why Russia feels so threatened. I look at President Putin and Minister Lavrov and all I can see is that they really want to make a lasting deal and I believe that these gentlemen can be trusted. Sadly I am convinced that its our leaders that can never be trusted, the same leaders that have lied to us and have enriched themselves by treason and betrayal. Putin and Lavrov know whom the real enemy is, and until Americans really wake up to the lies nothing will change, the DS/Rothschilds/Soros/WEF/IMF/Gates/BigPharma and the rest will continue the reset agenda before Federal Reserve fiat bank notes become totally worthless, its what they are most afraid of. One day we may all wake up and all our savings will have been converted to Deep State controlled digital currency and it will be too late. Out of the blue,Trump had mentioned that he wanted to return to the Gold standard, and then I knew that HE KNEW. It was a pleasant surprise. Years later, after kicking out all the world banking cartels from Russia when they finished paying off the last of their national restructuting loans from the 1990s, Putin did exactly that. Coincidence???

When Putin announced that they were going to tie the rubble to GOLD, that's when the banksters went nuts, they will stop at nothing now to try to destroy the Russian Federation. The banking cartels/the beast system are the real danger to all of us, all the Western nations, it is what worries me the most. Remember, the Breton Woods agreement of 1933 when the IMF and World Bank were created? The primary requirement for all Central Banks in every nation was that they NOT peg their currency to GOLD in any way that their respective currencies had to be pegged to DEBT. There is only a small remnant of us that carry this burden of knowing these things while most Americans worship their portable gadgets for games and entertainment. Best wishes.

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Yes, I do remember about the betrayal with the missiles when Putin said that "we trusted them and they cheated, they lied to us." Putin afterwards had to setup missile bases as well to counter the NATO incursion. Russia was not threatening anyone. Its so easy to understand why Russia feels so threatened.

Absolutely - especially considering that Yanukovich's ousting occurred after he refused to join NATO, the EC and cease friendly relations to Russia. Russia offered to aid Ukraine, and the deep state couldn't have that. The DS employed very similar tactics to garner citizen support against Yanu as they did with Trump in the US - the NGOs, the MSM and charges of corruption.

I look at President Putin and Minister Lavrov and all I can see is that they really want to make a lasting deal and I believe that these gentlemen can be trusted. Sadly I am convinced that its our leaders that can never be trusted, the same leaders that have lied to us and have enriched themselves by treason and betrayal.

100%

Putin and Lavrov know whom the real enemy is, and until Americans really wake up to the lies nothing will change, the DS/Rothschilds/Soros/WEF/IMF/Gates/BigPharma and the rest will continue the reset agenda before Federal Reserve fiat bank notes become totally worthless, its what they are most afraid of. One day we may all wake up and all our savings will have been converted to Deep State controlled digital currency and it will be too late.

Yes, my biggest concern - once that CBCD is implemented, we're done - I don't care what anyone says - "It depends who controls it..." No! No! No! Any system that controls our money like that, controls us. PERIOD.

Out of the blue,Trump had mentioned that he wanted to return to the Gold standard, and then I knew that HE KNEW. It was a pleasant surprise. Years later, after kicking out all the world banking cartels from Russia when they finished paying off the last of their national restructuting loans from the 1990s, Putin did exactly that. Coincidence???

No

When Putin announced that they were going to tie the rubble to GOLD, that's when the banksters went nuts, they will stop at nothing now to try to destroy the Russian Federation. The banking cartels/the beast system are the real danger to all of us, all the Western nations, it is what worries me the most. Remember, the Breton Woods agreement of 1933 when the IMF and World Bank were created? The primary requirement for all Central Banks in every nation was that they NOT peg their currency to GOLD in any way that their respective currencies had to be pegged to DEBT. There is only a small remnant of us that carry this burden of knowing these things while most Americans worship their portable gadgets for games and entertainment. Best wishes.

Yes, it is a burden - because this isn't about us - Our bad decisions now will lock every future generation into a system that they can't escape. Thank you, Knowledgeable JohnQ.