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See? No war. This FF was created out as a diversion to hide what is really going on over there. Look up CSTO and NATO in here... Ukraine's not a member of either treaty, meaning aggression on their soil between the West and Russia would classify as a war crime and the Law of War under the Geneva Convention.

So, logically what are [they] trying to cover up? In March, Poroshenko's lawyers warned against prosecution. In Dec, he was formally charged w/Treason and his assets seized in Jan. 2 days later a 7 member Congressional delegation flew to Ukraine, Sunday, Blinkin took a late night flight himself. By Monday we were on a DS designed War Watch.

All this week we've watched, and laughed, as the West looked more and more foolish. Today is no different.

BTW $5 billion in 2012/2013 to disrupt the Country is a war crime too!!! And, Biden was the point man, but not the architect, for that look into HRC's Foundation. (all research in here)

Now watch as Jake the "liar and not so mastermind" Sullivan is cracking.

See? No war. This FF was created out as a diversion to hide what is really going on over there. Look up CSTO and NATO in here... Ukraine's not a member of either treaty, meaning aggression on their soil between the West and Russia would classify as a war crime and the Law of War under the Geneva Convention. So, logically what are [they] trying to cover up? In March, Poroshenko's lawyers warned against prosecution. In Dec, he was formally charged w/Treason and his assets seized in Jan. 2 days later a 7 member Congressional delegation flew to Ukraine, Sunday, Blinkin took a late night flight himself. By Monday we were on a DS designed War Watch. All this week we've watched, and laughed, as the West looked more and more foolish. Today is no different. BTW $5 billion in 2012/2013 to disrupt the Country is a war crime too!!! And, Biden was the point man, but not the architect, for that look into HRC's Foundation. (all research in here) Now watch as Jake the "liar and not so mastermind" Sullivan is cracking.

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[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

It is but a democracy is not some great thing we should be defending anyway. They let us vote but nothing changes.

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It is but a democracy is not some great thing we should be defending anyway. They let us vote but nothing changes.

Your clause is the weaker clause, not because you're wrong, but because details like that don't matter to the public, which you are trying to appeal to.

"Democracy" is a sexy word for too many people, on all sides, carrying connotations of "freedom", "liberty", and "the american way" for tens of millions of people just in the u.s.

Thats why its more effective to argue ukraine isn't a democracy and never has been.

Then again I could be wrong. That might just lend strength to the notion that we have to go fight "to BRING them democracy."

[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

I kind of just wish more people could be debrainwashed, realize what democracy really is, not just the definition of the word but the history of it, represenative democracy, they do let people vote in Ukraine then the representatives sell them out just like in other countries.

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I kind of just wish more people could be debrainwashed,

We have the same goal then.

Take a look here. https://poal.co/s/AskPoal/507108