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Appears they are going to bring everything to a stop.

Appears they are going to bring everything to a stop.

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I'm an electrical engineer. I have far more real world knowledge of cellular and RF/EMF communications than you or anyone else in the 5G threads. You'll never convince me of the supposed harm because I know how the physics works. It's not magic and it's not evil. If you're afraid of 5G, then you should go read up on a technology called WiMAX. It has been used in most cities for over a decade. It uses the same frequencies as 5G (actually it can go even higher too 110 GHz) and it broadcasts at much higher power than 5G cellular. A single WiMAX tower can cover 40 square miles with signal. Huge amounts of people, animals and plants (and viruses) have lived with them for 10+ years. I bet you didn't know that. You didn't fear something you didn't know existed. Isn't that interesting?

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Stick your head in a microwave and prove the radiation is safe

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Stick a 2500 PSI pressure washer in your mouth and prove that drinking water is safe.

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Water is very dangerous, I never said it wasn't. My fear of water is very justified. You on the other hand are shilling quite hard that these bands of radiation are safe. Prove it by microwaving your head plz.

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Hey morbo I'm not afraid of 5g I just have some questions about the technology.

If WiMax is 110ghz what is 5g in ghz?

If WiMax covers 40sq miles what does 5g cover?

How is 5g different from 4g?

Is 5g really useful/better or is it mostly a marketing scam?

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It's been a while since I looked at the WiMAX specifications, but I was wrong on the top end. WiMAX 802.16 tops out at 66 GHz instead of 110 GHz. Not sure what I was confusing it with outside of some space communications bands. Anyway, so WiMAX 802.16 variants range from 2 GHz to 66 GHz. The 5G cellular technology is broken into two bands. The first band is between 450 MHz to 6 GHz and the second band is between 24.25 GHz to 52.6 GHz. The top end is below the WiMAX top end. Right now only the lower 5G band is being used because they are filling out the extra frequency groups gained from shutting down the old analog TV broadcasting. The high frequency version of 5G is for short distance communications and the lower frequency band is for longer distance communications. People are afraid of the higher frequency bands, but WiMAX and other technologies have been using those frequencies for quite some time. The coverage area for 5G depends on the frequencies used. The higher the frequency, the smaller the area it can cover. Low frequencies go far, much like the sound of bass carries farther than treble.

So what's the difference between 4G and 5G? The number and "G" represents the generation of the cellular technology. It has nothing to do with the frequencies used or the way the signals are created and processed. It's simply a marker of time for a given technology. The 4G tech has some of its frequencies above the low band 5G, with most 4G operating in the 700 - 900 MHz bands. There are some higher frequencies used by 4G such as the 1.2 - 1.5 GHz bands. As with 5G, the bands determine the area of coverage. Higher frequencies need more towers closer together to provide good coverage.

What's the scam? A lot of marketing but also a lot more spectrum. Cell phone providers fight for spectrum. They need more of it to service more customers and with more advanced features. High frequencies can move a lot more data than low frequencies, but they can't do it over a long range. They need to use both to cover near and far, fast and slow. None of this is really new or groundbreaking. It's just like the differences between a 4 cylinder engine and a 6 cylinder engine. They both have their advantages and disadvantages, but marketing makes them both look great to consumers. The real goal of 5G (or 4G or 6G) is simply make more money. It's always that simple, just like with cars.

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Thanks.

So ham radio must be super low frequencies to travel across continents. It makes sense.

Have you heard these stories where people can use repeaters like other wireless technologies in a home to ping and create 3d images of everything.

If thats true, outside of extremely controled environments, how practical would that be to apply in every day applications?