WelcomeUser Guide
ToSPrivacyCanary
DonateBugsLicense

©2024 Poal.co

999

(post is archived)

[–] 4 pts (edited )

This is an example of price response to supply and infrastructure issues and also, I suspect, some opportunistic greed. This is not an example of inflation.

Besides have you been to Home Depot recently? Lumber prices are back down to around pre-covid levels, yet economies in general continue to experience mild to moderate inflation.

[–] 3 pts

This is an example of price response to supply and infrastructure issues and also, I suspect, some opportunistic greed. This is not an example of inflation.

Agree - you are technically correct.

This may vary by area of the country - I bought lumber yesterday, and it cost nearly as much as it would have a year ago. Unfortunately, I couldn't wait until the prices go down.

[–] 2 pts

Interesting. Yet a year ago our lumber prices were at their highest. It makes no sense that there'd be such a discrepancy across the market. I tried to figure out why lumber prices went insane several times and have yet to come up with an answer that explains it more than partially. Lumber shortages as a result of mill shutdowns due to Covid were always given as the nbr 1 reason BUT there was also evidence that Weyerhaeuser and other suppliers had large stock piles that they'd built up in anticipation of shutdowns, in conjunction with the unexpected reduction in demand because everyone was distracted by world events.

Maybe someday it will all makes sense but today it's easier just to think that a bunch of greedy fuckers took advantage of the situation to price gouge like crazy.

[–] 1 pt (edited )

BUT there was also evidence that Weyerhaeuser and other suppliers had large stock piles that they'd built up in anticipation of shutdowns

My understanding with Georgia Pacific as well. This is what happens when we centralize industries and move away from smaller owner-operators. What individual is going to/or has the ability to invest in a sawmill when they're facing such an uneven playing field?

I feel particularly bad for the people whose homes and businesses were recently destroyed by tornadoes. I can't imagine rebuilding under these circumstances.

[–] 0 pt

Well, most all the paper mills got shut down, no one wants good paper any more except for jap manga. Plastic bags replaced paper usage. The only thing people buy ant more is cheap toilet paper from china which the American mills couldn't compete with. My brother was in paper but shifted to steel with mill shutdowns and consolidations.Then, the lumber companies bought back their own product from stores to create their stock pile.

[–] 0 pt

4x8’ sheet of OSB is still $50? That was $24.99 a year ago.

[–] 0 pt

I just looked on Home Depot's web site. 4x8 sheets of OBS range from $25 to $50 ($CAD), so clearly there's a range of qualities available. I've never used the stuff so I don't what the differences are. But the 2x4s and 2x6s I bought recently were within $1 of what they used to cost, and there were builder packs of MDF trim on-sale for a really good price. Insulation, however, is still stupid expensive.

My point? I'm not sure any more. It's just a mess.

[–] 0 pt

2x4 where around $2.50 before this bs. $1 increase is still a significant increase.

[–] 4 pts

A depression is underway.

Hyperinflation is underway.

The economy is being deliberately dismantled.

Are you ready?

[–] 3 pts

Going back up too. Just paid $5.50 for 2x4x8s

[–] 3 pts

Agree - in my area 2 X 4 framing lumber is averaging around $9 per 8'.

Australians confused. Americans and their guns!!

Gets hauled away to re education camp for saying gun.

[–] [deleted] 2 pts

I love to explain things with wood.

I get arrested a lot.

[–] 0 pt

;-)

I wish you wood have interrupted this debacle.

If you shit in the woods does a bear notice?

My Crohn’s disease shits or chemo shits?

YES HE NOTICES

[–] 1 pt

this is price gauging due to manufacturing a crisis

[–] 0 pt

Tend to agree - it's the only thing that really makes sense.

[–] 1 pt

Here in BC, I remember when a sheet of 1/2 inch plywood cost $20. Then our government sold off all our resources during the privatization stage of globalization, giving foreign companies the rights to all of our forests, and the wood prices started going up and up and up because it was being shipped overseas to be processed before coming back to be sold. We lost a lot of jobs in the forest and wood-milling industry to outsiders because of that. Now you can't even go out and cut the deadwood on the ground for firewood without being fined.

[–] 0 pt

This is so true.

Now you can't even go out and cut the deadwood on the ground for firewood without being fined.

These jerks think they have the right to control everything. Telling us we can't have dead wood, should do laundry less often while they're using 11 million gallons of water a month growing lush lawns on their desert properties. They truly believe we're imbeciles.

[–] 1 pt

I went camping by myself up a logging road a few years back, and a forestry guy who was driving by in a truck saw me out on the creek out of view of my campsite and stopped to toss my stuff around in order to let me know I wasn't welcome, even though it's public land. They think they own it all.

[–] 1 pt

Not to belittle the point...

But do the ones to the right look like nicer boards to anyone else?

[–] 0 pt

Now that you mention it, they do look like a higher grade. Good catch :-)

[–] 1 pt

Not inflation. That's supply chain (((issues))).

[–] 0 pt

That is the very definition of inflation. Hold back product so the same amount of money is chasing fewer supply of goods. Call it supply chain issues if you like but it's planned supply shortage across many sectors. We've never had supply chain issues in this country till Byedon was placed into the White House.

[–] 0 pt

Inflation is printing currency. Which is behind a lot of price increase, especially stocks and real estate. Also all the money given to people by the government, that has to drive prices up.

[–] 1 pt

Wonder how the people who actually did vote for this admin are feeling now. Though I bet many of them live off public assistance and don't really notice much.

[–] 0 pt

I bet many of them live off public assistance and don't really notice much

If this is a fixed amount, it seems it'd be hard not to notice.

[–] 1 pt

It must be because of those greedy lumber barons.

[–] 1 pt

Someone's getting greedy.

[–] 0 pt

Inflation is a Jewish boogy man.

They have completely strangulation the supply market with all this covid bullshit.

More wealth has been consolidated in the last year than in the last 50, probably.

But now they want you to think the US dollar is the problem... let me guess, crypto will save us. Lmao

Load more (1 reply)