Okay, I'll bite.
I am one of those that criticize Q people. When Q came out at first I was listening and intrigued for about 2 months. The problem with Q stuff is that it's VERY EASY to see that most of it is a grift combined with a bit of wishful thinking.
Here are the two separate phenomenon at work in this community:
1) The grift - Ever watch videos of gypsy scams in Paris and other european cities? They are basically simple scripts where a two or three scammers collaborate to scam a few bucks out of ignorant tourists here and there.
When I was in college I worked in telephone sales. Telephone sales and gypsy scams are identical. How it works is basically like this:
The premise is that most people are gullible, they will believe anything you tell them. This is a fact actually.
You pick a mark. In telephone sales you get leads, but you can just cold call and if you make 100 calls in an hour you will qualify 10 marks and 1 out of those 10 can be sold. It's pure math, but the more linguistic skills you have the better your odds. Gypsies pick their marks because tourists are easy to spot and they are fucking stupid. Jews have the gift of the gab and a lack of morality so they go after any non jew mark.
A sales script is usually crafted by an experienced sales person / scammer. The script is based on understanding of psychology of the human animal and just like you can teach a dog to sit by giving it treats, humans can be convinced to believe anything by prequalifying the gullible ones from the herd and then working the gullible isolated targets.
After that it's just practice. After a while you begin to despise these people and start to believe that they deserve to be scammed because they allow them selves to be so easily scammed when it is TRIVIAL, and I mean ABSOLUTELY TRIVIAL to learn just enough to recognize a scam artist.
2) The writers block, or the Q equivalent of the writers block.
The writers block is a psychological condition that writers suffer from where the thought of starting to write on a blank page is so overwhelming that their minds will distract them with ANY TYPE OF ACTIVITY that takes them away from the blank page.
Their minds will make them shop, surf the net, spend time watching twitter, do all kinds of bullshit just to waste time so they can justify to them selves that they don't need to write that day, they can leave it for tomorrow.
We all have similar mental blocks in our heads, it's part of our dna design. I don't fully understand the evolutionary reasons, but, most people fail at whatever they fail at because of this mental block. I have identified this in my self, I suffer from it, but I have learned to overcome it in some specific ways and circumstances. Overcoming it is a skill and it roughly works the same way that you heal people from their phobias:
- Slow sensory adaptation. You start with a bit of exposure, then more, then more and eventually you are free of it.
There are more layers to all of this, of course, but those are the two main mechanisms. So here is what is happening with Q mostly:
CON ARTISTS - You guys are being fucked with by con artists but you don't have the skills or training to recognize it. I am not saying that non Q people aren't conned all the time, we are, I am. It's just that we know a few more con tricks than you and easily identify the bullshit artists. You guys, somehow, refuse to learn about con tricks and keep on coming back for more. It's a little like women that go to astrologers all the time or gambling addicts that go to the track all the time. There is a circuit in your heads that has been established and you cannot break out of it even if you are shown the scams.
WRITERS BLOCK - You are all too lazy to do anything about anything. You see the world burning around you, but you are afraid or unwilling to do anything about it. Learning is REALLY HARD. Getting new skills is REALLY HARD. Getting up in front of a crowd and speaking is REALLY HARD. Organizing people is REALLY HARD. And so on. I know, I suffer from the same issue. Everyone does. But, what you guys are doing with this Q stuff, for the most part, is using it as that mental crutch, that mental distraction so that you don't have to do the real digging, the real work, the real risky shit like actually doing something.
Now, here is the thing. I have worked the phones and I know how suckers work. Suckers CANNOT CANNOT CANNOT admit they are suckers. All of you will deny you are suckers and will keep on doing the same thing and in another 6 years time you will still be pursuing the same feedback loop and not being any further ahead in solving our problems. So, I already know what all of you will say because I have seen it so much and I do it my self as well.
But, I do know the method out. It works like this:
1) First, admit you could be wrong.
2) Second, admit you could be wrong about everything, not just one thing.
3) Start with a small thing that you can do every day to get you to solve whatever problem you need to solve via this Q stuff. Keep reading Q, but start writing a blog. Start taking a speaking course. Start taking an activism course from communists so you can learn how to organize.
4) Repeat the small steps in #3 forever.
Eventually you will cure your self of the feedback loop and will look back and realize you were stuck in the mental muddy road and spinning your wheels because you did not want to get out and push the fucking truck out and get to your destination.
So, that is some advice from someone that has expert insight into how this stuff works and what is going on here.
But! I gotta tell ya one thing, I don't want you to stop following Q stuff, or researching. Sometimes you guys dig up interesting stuff. We all thought Alex Jones was making shit up, but it turned out that he has a mental defficiency that makes him capable of reading our enemies white papers (they are super boring to ready, like REALLY BORING) but also makes him impossible to listen to because he cannot communicate because of that condition.
Just be open to the idea that like an alcoholic, gambling addict or someone with a writers block / performance block, people criticizing you are trying to tell you that they see something wrong here and are trying to help. They just don't know how to communicate it because they don't understand the various mechanisms at work, so they come across insulting. Their insults actually are associated with the human "disgust" mechanism. That is an evolutionary trait that forces us to feel disgust at deseased members of our tribe and exile them in order to stop the spread of desease. You guys are triggering that response in those that critique you by not being open to criticism.
If you want to really address this, start with the steps that I gave you and with every critique go to step #1 and acknowledge to that person that you could be wrong and ask them to tell you why you are wrong. Then, just listen and don't respond. Instead, when they are done, just say thank you and you will look into it. Then look into it.
That is all for now, but doctor crunchy signing off at this point. I love you guys, I think you are all awesome human beings and I would love to have beers with all of you. I always keep in mind that not a single Q post has ever harmed anyone or wanted to harm anyone, you guys just want to help. If you have questions or wahtever, just ask.
Just answering my self to add one tidbit that you guys should pay attention to:
Not only have I identified the writers block in my self and understand the mechanics of it and how to overcome it, I have identified and work with people that DON'T have this writers block in them.
They are what I call super-performers. These people are basically the Donal Trumps of the world, they are typically in business or in sales / marketing and they have the following features 100% of the time:
They are hyperfocuse on one and only one thing. No amount of distraction will get them off track of whatever it is they are pursuing.
They are hypercompetitive. They absolutely must win, they are driven by the high they get from a win. They will work 12 hour days, 16 hour days, 48 hour days, whatever it takes to win.
They all have an emotional core / components. For Trump, he is a softie for his family, that is his weakness. Each of these people have an emotional component that is different an unique to them, but if you pay attnetion you can always identify it.
Now, while I don't fully understand the evolutionary reasoning for why this exist in a teeny tiny percentage of the population, it is these people that change the world. Simultaneously, it is these people that can also do grave damage to the world for the following reasons:
They read very little.
They have very little understanding of the big picture.
They are highly misunderstood by the general public so they end up being hyper isolated. This leads them to misunderstand a great deal about how the world works and how what they do affects others.
I just want to share with you a bit of information about people who don't have their equivalent of a writers block. And, it isn't exactly pretty. They are interesting people, there are always supernice and really great individuals, but, I am not sure I want to become someone like that. I don't think I want to suggest that any of you should either.
Good posts, thank you.
I was just bored and thought it would be fun to trigger people. Mission accomplished.
Shill.
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Here are the two separate phenomenon at work in this community:
1) The grift
2) The writers block, or the Q equivalent of the writers block.
Neither one necessarily pertains to Q researchers.
When I was in college I worked in telephone sales.
After a while you begin to despise these people and start to believe that they deserve to be scammed
This explains more about you than anyone else. I did telephone sales for about two days when there were no other jobs available. I quit when I realized what a scumbag I would have to be to interrupt people at home with cold-calls and lie my ass off to them when they were just trying to politely tell me to leave them alone. I saw that the best sales-people were the smarmiest lying fucks in the room. You seem to have projected your own self-loathing onto your potential customers, as would have to be the case to last at all in that type of job. And you still do the same today.
Their minds will make them shop, surf the net, spend time watching twitter, do all kinds of bullshit just to waste time so they can justify to them selves that they don't need to write that day, they can leave it for tomorrow.
That's not writer's block. That's procrastination. I'm a writer and I learned that there's a formula to writing that starts with taking notes, hashing out ideas, doing a little or a lot of research depending on the subject matter, etc. The only real block is not being interested in the subject matter to begin with, and if you're not interested in it, you really don't have desire to write, so what's the point of it?
We all have similar mental blocks in our heads, it's part of our dna design. I don't fully understand the evolutionary reasons, but, most people fail at whatever they fail at because of this mental block.
Sounds like your moving towards blaming genetics, i.e. 'racial inequalities', but maybe I'm wrong. The fact is, it has nothing to do with DNA so much as it has to do with what I said earlier. If you have no idea of how to go about doing the task, you aren't going to get very far or do a good job. The first step in doing anything is learning how to do it properly and building the habits that then make it a subconscious act that doesn't demand conscious attention to the details of how to go about it. In other words, knowing the steps well enough to follow them without much mental confusion over how to begin and follow through. Ask a plumber to explain how to fix a leaky faucet and he'll spew it out easily because he knows the subject. Ask a young kid and he scratches his head and fumbles because he doesn't really know what he needs to to do. Raise that kid to always be lazy and not apply himself to learning things, and you create an adult who never applies his/her thinking skills because they were never exercised and laziness became a habit.
Slow sensory adaptation. You start with a bit of exposure, then more, then more and eventually you are free of it.
Pretty much what I just said. You have to learn to crawl before you can walk. Not every plumber can do every plumbing job. Same with writing on a particular subject. They have to first be exposed to the knowledge and gain some experience with it. The familiarity begins to erase the incapacity/confusion/lack of knowledge/uncertainty/fear of failing/etc.
You guys, somehow, refuse to learn about con tricks and keep on coming back for more.
Please point out one or two examples of anyone here being conned. Be specific about what they're being conned about and how you know they're being conned.
You guys, somehow, refuse to learn about con tricks and keep on coming back for more.
And also explain what it is that brings YOU here. Is it to play the con game? You've already let us know that that's part of your repertoire.
Learning is REALLY HARD. Getting new skills is REALLY HARD.
No it's not. Only disinterest or laziness stops a person from learning something. If I gave you a book on quantum physics, you would probably give up reading it after the first few pages if you weren't really interested in the subject or were too lazy to really try to follow what's being said in the book. You might force yourself to read the words and finish the entire book, but that would just be words passing in one side and out the other without much retention of what was said, because of disinterest and a laziness towards paying attention and thinking about what you're reading. If I gave you a book on something that really interests you, you would apply yourself more and learn something if there was anything there for you to learn. It wouldn't be a struggle for you. It's not learning that's hard. It's the desire to apply yourself and the quality of the information.
what you guys are doing with this Q stuff, for the most part, is using it as that mental crutch
What Q stuff? Where do you see it here? All I see is people like the OP raising Q as a subject (either directly, like this OP, or more often indirectly, through mocking comments about 'Qtards') but nothing else. It's in your overactive imagination that it exists here. Almost all the posts in these forums that were originally for Q-related stuff are now moved on to current events. Q is done and everyone has moved on. Except the shills.
so that you don't have to do the real digging, the real work, the real risky shit like actually doing something.
What do you suggest people do, besides staying abreast of current events? Are you hoping to incite some sort of action? Or do you think there's anything to do research on that hasn't already been done? Tell me.
So, that is some advice from someone that has expert insight into how this stuff works and what is going on here.
LOL!!!!!!!
I don't take advice from admitted con artists.
We all thought Alex Jones was making shit up, but it turned out that he has a mental defficiency
You live in a bubble of your own making. Projecting your own deficiencies on others makes you feel better about yourself. Classic shill characteristic. You include yourself only enough to pretend you can speak for the group, as well as to soften up your mark by making them think they're in familiar company (a typical con tactic). The truth is, you don't know what anyone but yourself thinks.
They just don't know how to communicate it because they don't understand the various mechanisms at work, so they come across insulting.
Your entire spiel has been one big insult to the members of this forum, and that says a lot about your made up explanations that you've adopted in order to try to understand the mechanisms at work with how these Q forums have morphed into something else. You and all these other shills are still stuck on Q more than anyone else here. You take pleasure in trying to sound superior when really you're just tossing shit. You offer a little bit of personal knowledge about conning people that you picked up in your life and that's all you have to go with. You supply nothing of any value other than to let those of us with minds to see see what you're really doing with this long-winded comment. Anyone can write a long boring book that amounts to nothing. Length doesn't equal value.
people criticizing you are trying to tell you that they see something wrong here and are trying to help.
Bullshit. I often write quality comments that give a lot of useful knowledge and information that I've gained from my years of research into relevant subject matter. Why are they almost always ignored by you shills? Why, when they're not ignored, are my critical questions that would get to the bottom of what someone is claiming always being ignored by them, and often appear to be taken as insults to their intelligence when they're not insults at all? The reason for the non-responses are because I made a point, or there's no way to respond without showing that what I was responding to was flawed, and my questions aren't answered because the person just doesn't know as much as I do and can't make a good argument to support their views.
If you expect people to be researching, then don't expect them to be wasting a lot of time on here, because they're busy researching, which means they're spending their time reading things and learning. What you see here these days isn't research. It's current events and short little comments that don't convey anything useful. I have a stack of research that I've done over the years that sits on my computer, with some of it posted out there on the internet where others who are interested can find it. I research for my own education, and I know from experience that most others aren't willing to accept anything that comes direct from some anon in a forum that's hidden away in a corner of the web. If they're smart, they want someone who is a known professional in their field, or an eye-witness to an event, etc. If they're not so smart, they want someone who is popular because they get a lot of promotion, and their level of expertise or experience is beside the point.
The point I'm trying to make is that most people are just here to follow current events, and anyone that wants to 'help' (as you call it) is not helping anyone by criticizing their reason for being here. If you want to help, post some fucking research or shut the fuck up.
I read all of that. I don't agree, but I did read it. I do appreciate that you read everything I wrote and took it apart from your perspective. That is really good to see.
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