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According to the rules here,

Free debate is allowed and encouraged as long as it is civil.

So I hope this post will remain up, as I intend to be civil.

We all know that there is tension between Q followers and those who don’t believe in Q. The followers will usually call the disbelievers “shills” or something similar, completely disregarding the fact that people have legitimate reasons to have doubts.

The most common debate I’ve seen on any Q sub generally revolves around a disbeliever saying something along the lines of “nothing has happened,” and followers tend to respond with something along the lines of “plenty has happened, you’re just not paying attention/unaware.”

I’ve asked this question today to two pretty hardcore Qers, and neither has responded to me, so I’m copy/pasting it here. I’m genuinely open-minded and willing to be convinced, but I just haven’t seen anything that supports this.

The question is [edited to be a bit more respectful, honest apologies for the original being a bit rude]:

What Q prediction has come true that makes it obvious that the swamp is being drained? That the cabal is losing its grip on power? [I won’t be convinced with] “someone said this is going to happen,” or, “this is going on behind the scenes.” [Can you tell me anything] specific that has actually already verifiably happened that makes it obvious that Q is doing anything other than [being a distraction?]

I haven’t seen it. A lot of the rest of us haven’t seen it. But Qers always seem to claim that it’s happening. So can anyone actually provide a specific example?

According to the rules here, > Free debate is allowed and encouraged as long as it is civil. So I hope this post will remain up, as I intend to be civil. We all know that there is tension between Q followers and those who don’t believe in Q. The followers will usually call the disbelievers “shills” or something similar, completely disregarding the fact that people have legitimate reasons to have doubts. The most common debate I’ve seen on any Q sub generally revolves around a disbeliever saying something along the lines of “nothing has happened,” and followers tend to respond with something along the lines of “plenty has happened, you’re just not paying attention/unaware.” I’ve asked this question today to two pretty hardcore Qers, and neither has responded to me, so I’m copy/pasting it here. I’m genuinely open-minded and willing to be convinced, but I just haven’t seen anything that supports this. The question is [edited to be a bit more respectful, honest apologies for the original being a bit rude]: >What Q prediction has come true that makes it obvious that the swamp is being drained? That the cabal is losing its grip on power? [I won’t be convinced with] “someone said this is going to happen,” or, “this is going on behind the scenes.” [Can you tell me anything] specific that has actually already verifiably happened that makes it obvious that Q is doing anything other than [being a distraction?] I haven’t seen it. A lot of the rest of us haven’t seen it. But Qers always seem to claim that it’s happening. So can anyone actually provide a specific example?

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So I hope this post will remain up, as I intend to be civil.

Why would you think posts like yours get removed?

What Q prediction has come true that makes it obvious that the swamp is being drained?

This question has some problems.

First of all, it asks for a single event that will on it's own will prove the case. There is no single event that will do that.

The question also reflects an expectation that this single event will make it obvious that things are happening, but 'being obvious' is relative to who's asking and what they know (or think they know), and what they expect to happen.

Also, the question assumes that Q made any predictions, but leaves it wide open as to what those predictions allegedly were. It doesn't offer any reason to assume that any predictions were made, but only suggests it, and by doing so supports the idea that Q did.

It's a loaded question.

The belief that there's any sort of plan lies in the unfoldment of a lot of different events, as well as through many pieces of information that correspond to those events and to what many expect to happen (whether they will or not). To expect anyone to produce enough of that in a concise and convincing way to change the minds of anyone else is virtually impossible. You either get it or you don't.

Any doubter of Q (or a 'plan') should read Q's posts before questioning his credibility or the content of his posts or what they might be saying. In my experience, none of the doubters I've come across have ever done that.

It's interesting to observe how Q is being brought up so frequently for no real reason recently. The DS could benefit from that.

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There is no single event that will do that.

Do you not see this as a problem? That the only way to convince yourself of the validity of something is to piece together as many vague and possibly completely unconnected things as possible?

To expect anyone to produce enough of that in a concise and convincing way to change the minds of anyone else is virtually impossible.

Why? True things are generally not difficult to prove

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Do you not see this as a problem? That the only way to convince yourself of the validity of something is to piece together as many vague and possibly completely unconnected things as possible?

When have I done that?

True things are generally not difficult to prove

Do you understand physics by observing one aspect of it? Do you understand how a computer works by running a piece of software? Do you understand anything of any complexity at all by knowing just one or two pieces of information?

You confuse 'true' with 'simple'. That's a sign of a very low IQ.