The censorship and extreme control by one user in the QPatriots sub also serves to reinforce that this is the case.
That's some powerful revisionism. The heavy handed modding was because of the 24 hour shilling and brigading. Literally impossible to discuss anything. But people like you claim that's good. Then feign outrage when the stupidity of such a position is presented.
Disagreement and different points of view
I agree. But that's almost never what happened. Usually trolls and shills would brigade and push half truths while sliding, consensus cracking, and gas lighting. Hell, half their posts are crazy theories they created and then attacked, strawmanning onto Q. Classic deception and gas lighting. Nothing suspicious there.
See, we are disagreeing.
Read the bullshit psyop in depth which shills constantly push here. Has zero parallels beyond the superficial. But shills assume most won't read or actually understand the differences. Hell, most don't even understand basic psychology or psyops. Even had the brain trusts here say all psyops are harmful. Apparently food and water is bad when you need it. This is their official position.
The heavy handed modding was because of the 24 hour shilling and brigading.
Crensch is infamous for always being an aggressive mod.
That could be. I do know those who cried the loudest were always the ones doing shill-like activities. I expect this created a low tolerance.
Well if you hate half truths, then surely you are against the people who continuously post links to stories that have already been debunked, right? Not by MSM, but by others of US who point out incorrect statements that do none of us on the right any good. Because simply pointing that out over there gets you banned.
Someone literally completely butchers and misinterprets the results of a study, post it in a horrifically incorrect context, everyone repeats it and looks like an idiot here and on social media for repeating the same half truth, someone comes in and wants them to have a little more discernment so we don’t all look stupid, because we are ultimately on the same side whether we agree about Q or not, and they get banned.
You see, that’s why I like this place. We are allowed to disagree here as long as we keep it respectful. Over there, you can be respectful and still get banned simply for saying something no one wants to hear.
Unfortunately these types of exchanges are a tiny minority of what used to take place. I've personally been brigaded and stalked on voat by people who were very clearly shills. Every textbook shill tactic was employed.
When you constantly poke people it provokes them. You should stop claiming victim status when a provoked person treats you accordingly. Especially when it's in an organized manner. All of which are hallmarks of shills.
Victim? I feel welcome here. I love this place. I’ve detailed why several times, even in this thread, I feel like the discussion here is good and productive even when we don’t agree. I don’t feel attacked. At all. I’ve made friends here. I’m not quite sure you get where I’m coming from. I’m sorry that people stalked you and brigaded you, but that’s not me. So I can’t speak for them.
I think the disconnect here is that you believe that I think shills don’t exist. They do. But I think people are overly sensitive about being, as you said, poked and provoked and they think everyone who disagrees with them is just try to disrupt everything like a shill.
Besides we should be able to take very intense criticism and even hostility if we truly believe what we are saying.
One place where I disagree with you is the idea that people who post complete garbage that makes us look stupid are in the minority. I don’t find that to be the case at all. There’s a lot of very very misleading information posted on many right wing sites. The worst part is, even when completely fabricated information is exposed it is ENDLESSLY recycled.
Because the people who keep passing it around aren’t interested in the truth, they are interested in promoting what they already believe to be true.
I hate when what has happened to the right.
Every time people complain about the fact that those who are right of center have absolutely no credibility in the main stream media, I shake my head. It’s their fault. The media is garbage, they are leftist trash.
Giving them constant ammunition to call us stupid is hurting us. Anyway, good discussion. You seem like a very intelligent, levelheaded rational person. These are the conversations that I love. It’s nice talking to someone who is open minded and intelligent. Thank you.
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