Victim? I feel welcome here. I love this place. I’ve detailed why several times, even in this thread, I feel like the discussion here is good and productive even when we don’t agree. I don’t feel attacked. At all. I’ve made friends here. I’m not quite sure you get where I’m coming from. I’m sorry that people stalked you and brigaded you, but that’s not me. So I can’t speak for them. I think the disconnect here is that you believe that I think shills don’t exist. They do. But I think people are overly sensitive about being, as you said, poked and provoked and they think everyone who disagrees with them is just try to disrupt everything like a shill. Besides we should be able to take very intense criticism and even hostility if we truly believe what we are saying. One place where I disagree with you is the idea that people who post complete garbage that makes us look stupid are in the minority. I don’t find that to be the case at all. There’s a lot of very very misleading information posted on many right wing sites. The worst part is, even when completely fabricated information is exposed it is ENDLESSLY recycled. Because the people who keep passing it around aren’t interested in the truth, they are interested in promoting what they already believe to be true. I hate when what has happened to the right. Every time people complain about the fact that those who are right of center have absolutely no credibility in the main stream media, I shake my head. It’s their fault. The media is garbage, they are leftist trash. Giving them constant ammunition to call us stupid is hurting us. Anyway, good discussion. You seem like a very intelligent, levelheaded rational person. These are the conversations that I love. It’s nice talking to someone who is open minded and intelligent. Thank you.