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Hacking into the pipeline for a price of 4.4 million ransom? What are citizens thinking when they began to load their vehicles up with bags of gas?

Hacking into a trucking company that distributes 1/5th of US meat? ............. Before you do anything, THINK people!

If this was NOT a CIA job, then real hackers would hack directly into the banks or credit unions, right? Why hurt the people? right? Just take the money directly, right?

Why is our own government trying to affect only southern red states? Payback? Revenge?

When are we going to understand that all is corrupt and then when are we going to take a stand?

Gas shortage? Food Shortage? Runaway Inflation? Stolen Election? Religious Freedom? Medical Freedom? Freedom? What hill are you willing to die on? It has never been about a virus.

Hacking into the pipeline for a price of 4.4 million ransom? What are citizens thinking when they began to load their vehicles up with bags of gas? Hacking into a trucking company that distributes 1/5th of US meat? ............. Before you do anything, THINK people! If this was NOT a CIA job, then real hackers would hack directly into the banks or credit unions, right? Why hurt the people? right? Just take the money directly, right? Why is our own government trying to affect only southern red states? Payback? Revenge? When are we going to understand that all is corrupt and then when are we going to take a stand? Gas shortage? Food Shortage? Runaway Inflation? Stolen Election? Religious Freedom? Medical Freedom? Freedom? What hill are you willing to die on? It has never been about a virus.

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Pipe lines and meat packing plants are probably easier targets. People safeguarding actual cash will keep higher security than in an industrial environment....

That windows 98 computer that keeps your plant running is doing just fine as long as no one ever turns it off, is going to cost (easily) $10,000 to $20,000 depending on the software packages they would need to buy and programming time + wiring and installation.

(Was a control engineer for 10 years)

AND you don't want to get fired so you will either buy Seimens or Allen Bradley software wich comes at a price. A big price.

Sure you can run the whole thing with a $500 PC... It's everything that goes with it.

So, if that win 98 PC runs 1 more year it saves $20000 off of your budget. Security is for the IT dept to worry about.

(The IT dept is 1 colledge grad that spends all of his time wiping viruses off of pornsites you visit and resetting passwords that people are too stupid to remember, and getting that old flash animation on the website to work with modern browsers because you're too cheap to buy any actual tools for them to use.)

Yeah, they are a much easier target.

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VP of Tech in the energy industry here, this is the right answer. Hackers try to hit EVERY company. It's automated. Its just a matter of time until they find that open port in your firewall. Banks and healthcare lock that stuff down TIGHT. My industry overall is dangerously behind on this.

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100% agree. Controls engineer designer here.

Keeping in mind that the US and Israel went after Iran's nuclear centrifuges by causing the Allen Bradley PLCs to malfunction and rapidly spin up and spin down, which broke the mechanism. This was done with a very sophisticated virus called Stuxnet. We've known that state actors had this capability for a very long time. But we also know that the source code for Stuxnet is now widely available and other actors have it. Hacking in and locking down an outdated system in a meat-packing plant or a pipeline would be child's play.

Not only that, they distributed the virus by placing it on flashdrives and seedung tge areas where the engineers hung out. Knowing that engineers sre curious and a little pervy, the were almost guaranteed that an engineer was going to pop it into his computer to see what was on it...

Provingvthat saftey protocols in industrial settings ate non existent. But fortunately they have learned and nothing like tgat will ever hapoen again.

Just kidding, the guys that get promoted are goid with gas, or electric, or uranium, or bullying workers - what ever that particular industry is They don't give a crap about network security - that is someone else's problem.

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Yes, the virus itself was very intelligently written so that it could figure out where in the world (and where within the network) it was. Combined with the Human Firewall Element (TM) to break the sneakernet barrier, they did an amazing job with it.

Didn't want to get too technical for the layperson reading the comments, but you get it. :)

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”Good answer! Good answer!”

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Sort of what I’ve been thinking. I’ve gotten where I don’t trust anything I read about anymore, especially if there is a chance a government agency could be involved. The next thing in a continual list of things to keep the sheep worried

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A better question: What hill are you willing to make the other bastard die on?

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^ This.

Winner winner chicken dinner, Patriot.

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The hacks are probably fake.

An excuse for forced shortages.

DS is trying to create fear and chaos / distract from important events.

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NO!! I'm just trusting the plan!! As you should too!!

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If all of us that AREN'T millennials are going to have to fix this fucking mess while the LAZY-ASS MILLENNIALS play fucking video games and pretend to be different genders and play act like they're fucking gay-ass cartoon characters, I say we after we're done we deport their asses along with the fucking brown "people" for being fucking USELESS!

And NEVER let either into the country again! They've been sucking off of us for fucking long enough.

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ok boomer

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So to your STUPID ASS, anybody that ISN'T a millennial is considered a 'boomer', what an "exclusive" club of USELESS RETARDED FAGGOTS you belong to.

Go look up the definition of "boomer" you fucking doofus.

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Spot on. Great deduction.

What hill are you willing to die on?

My guess is none.

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My own hill. That happens when all else has failed. State, local and county government. At that point it's my community, my home and I will stand on my feet, not kneel on my knees to anyone. Now that sounds selfish and probably is but this ain't 1776. Sure, I would love stand with a million, tens of millions of other Patriots and do what should be done but tell me, just how exactly is that going to be organized, structured, implemented? How is this going to be pulled together without the _B_ showing up at your place of work, your home and whisking you off to jail where you'll sit and sit like some of those folks that went to DC that day. Some of those people are sitting in solitary.

That iPhone you have, your desktop, laptop, iPad, Smart TV. Good fucking luck with that. Everything you do, communicate, places you go, your bank accounts, where you spend that money all of it, they know exactly what all of us are doing if they want to take the time to dive into the metadata and find you.

This is why it is imperative that our state and local governments stand up to the federal government and protect it's citizens. Nullifying unConstitutional laws, edicts and EOs. And if need be, succession would be an option. I ain't no fucking fool to think that I can go out here and start 1776 2.0. You will find your life and that of your family's torn the hell apart never to be put back together again.

This is why we can only accept on faith, that Q was dropping truth when he told us, "The Military is the only way". I hate to say it and it hurts me in my heart but I don't think the Calvary is coming. Too many like minded fellow travelers in the top tier of the DoD. The rank and file? I have no doubt about. They would stand in a heartbeat. But look at what they're doing to those Patriots. There is an concerted effort handed down from the very top to find them and get rid of them. I don't know what else to say about all this. If we are not at the precipice, we are damn close to it and I see no evidence that they can be stopped. They own it all.

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I hear you. All true. At some point we need to take back our Government or we will certainly have a more miserable place to live.

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Recently had a convo where someone said “masks aren’t the hill I’m going to die on”. Recently being a few months, how rapidly things change these days. But I could only say brother the Federal Reserve act of 1913 is the hill we should have died on.

Peoples mindsets, even the best of us, haven’t fully grasped how far down the control hill we’ve fallen

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the Federal Reserve act of 1913 is the hill we should have died on.

Agreed. We can see how inaction has lead us further down the road of perdition.

This part of the Declaration of Independence shows our founders knew the nature of mankind: " that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. "

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Yep!

Woke pussy-ass bitches have this echo chamber under lock & key, too.

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Loose ends indeed. Do you know anything about computers aside from being able to turn them on?

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I agree to an extent. It’s harder than you think to hack into banking systems. Also the money is protected meaning the bank would be liable to pay back any losses to the account holders.

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When you have eight billion eaters, what's a few million deaths?

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8 billion (minus the deaths) Absolutely controlled eaters

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