While I realize you have every right to speak with any language you choose I believe language has spiraled downward with so many other things in our society. Yes, you can choose whatever word you want to express yourself...but should you??? This idea that there is freedom in "colorful" speech just goes to the depth of deception about what makes a society good, civilized and healthy. Does dropping the "F-bomb" make you appear more intelligent or articulate...NO...rather it shows a baseness where you are stooping to the lowest common denominator to communicate.
I realize speech reflects the person speaking, and that in turn reflects society and society can change ever so slowly to view things as common and acceptable that was once illegal, immoral or just looked down upon and who does that benefit? Society can be destroyed in many ways and the degeneration of speech is just one way that is used to prohibit people from being able to articulate using words that enhance your thoughts and expressions rather than these thoughts and expressions getting lost in a sea of vulgar language. Just because society accepts something doesn't mean it is good or right.
And really the greatest freedom is when people constrain themselves for the higher purpose of making society civil and the best that it can be. Yes, we all have a choice in so many things and it may be comfortable to choose the easiest, more common things but it takes effort and a respect for language and people that really exalts a nation and becomes a positive in society rather than a negative. Words are powerful and we really give up so much when we choose meaningless empty words to express ourselves rather than choosing words from our very rich language. Freedom isn't free and choice isn't freedom if it ensnares you.
This deserves to be its own thread - 100% agree.
With freedom of speech comes the responsibility of using it wisely.
And actually in a free society, the choices the people make in every aspect of that society determines the health of said society. Everything has a price tag and a consequence.
Fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck.
What's the price I'm going to pay? Going to hell? Get over it.
the degeneration of speech is just one way that is used to prohibit people from being able to articulate using words that enhance your thoughts and expressions rather than these thoughts and expressions getting lost in a sea of vulgar language.
I think you know that I'm usually very articulate and use the English language very well, but I use cuss words all the time, especially in person. I particularly like using the f-word. It has so many useful applications. :-)
Words are powerful and we really give up so much when we choose meaningless empty words to express ourselves rather than choosing words from our very rich language.
'Dick' and other cuss words aren't meaningless or empty. They provide a very effective way to express oneself that proper English just doesn't do.
Remember, we aren't in a church here. We're on a site that accepts full freedom of expression. Calling someone a dick is a lot easier and more effective in expressing certain particular feelings about someone than using more polite/proper language. It's not like the comment was filled with profanity.
But I disagree that Mike Lindell is a dick.
Moderator...if you carefully read my original post I said NOTHING about God or the Bible. You say it is off topic but we ARE communicating and expressing ourselves in the English language so the post was MY OPINION on how we use said language to communicate. I am not really sure why you and Kenosha were so triggered by my post.
"Yes, you can choose whatever word you want to express yourself...but should you???" Is the crux of the matter.
I am sorry that encouraging people to aspire to be the best version of themselves is so offensive. Fine wine, exquisite food, pleasant accommodations and fine writing all has something in common...they rise above the common ordinary things of this world. THAT was the point of the post. Sorry you missed that.
Anyway, you know I have enjoyed your writing and opinion and I wish you well, as always. Take care.
Moderator...if you carefully read my original post I said NOTHING about God or the Bible.
I never said you did, but you act like we are.
the post was MY OPINION on how we use said language to communicate. I am not really sure why you and Kenosha were so triggered by my post.
And I responded with MY opinion in MY thread. I wasn't 'triggered' any more than you were to post your opinion. Settle down and learn to live and let live. Freedom of expression includes talking in a manner that is normal for oneself or for those you're communicating to, and that can include the age-old tradition of swearing. I think the person you originally responded to made it as clear as he could to me in as few words as possible what he felt about Lindell. I have no problem with that, and the response was directed at me, not you. If anyone was triggered, it was you.
"Yes, you can choose whatever word you want to express yourself...but should you???" Is the crux of the matter.
You're implying that there should be some sort of rules about freedom of speech, and on a site that respects freedom of speech no less. I'm her because I can say fuck or cunt or asshole as much as I can say anything else short of what's illegal to post.
I am sorry that encouraging people to aspire to be the best version of themselves is so offensive. Fine wine, exquisite food, pleasant accommodations and fine writing all has something in common...they rise above the common ordinary things of this world.
To each their own. I don't drink alcohol but I smoke weed and I've indulged in a few other things when the quality was good, and that shouldn't be used as a measure of my character or the quality of my lifestyle or anything else. We live in a free society and it only stays free as long as people don't start complaining about the small things and expect everyone else to live by their standards. That's the only reason I spoke up, because you're pushing your standards on others.
Fuck that shit.
Yeh, fuck off with that. If as you say the power of a word is diminished by it's over use then the word fuck has completely lost it's power, except over limited minds. Just like calling white people "racist" lost it's importance, we need to grow up and get over simple words. Even the bible uses colorful language but bible thumpers rarely read the entire bible.
I didn't say the power of a word is diminished by its' overuse...you did. Don't put words in my mouth. Your response absolutely proves my point. AND I have read the Bible through many times and it is a perfect example of the beauty of language and its' ability to articulate beautifully and clearly.
Isaiah 36:12 "But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?" King James Version (KJV)
How is the word dung different from shit? Bad words in the bible? I'm shocked.
shit | Origin and meaning of shit by Online Etymology ... Search domain www.etymonline.com/word/shithttps://www.etymonline.com/word/shit shit (v.) Old English scitan, from Proto-Germanic *skit- (source also of North Frisian skitj, Dutch schijten, German scheissen), from PIE root *skei- "to cut, split." The notion is of "separation" from the body (compare Latin excrementum, from excernere "to separate," Old English scearn "dung, muck," from scieran "to cut, shear;" see sharn).
1 Samuel 25:22: “So and more also do God unto the enemies of David, if I leave of all that pertain to him by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.” 1 Samuel 25:34: “For in very deed, as the LORD God of Israel liveth, which hath kept me back from hurting thee, except thou hadst hasted and come to meet me, surely there had not been left unto Nabal by the morning light any that pisseth against the wall.”
1 Kings 14:10: “Therefore, behold, I will bring evil upon the house of Jeroboam, and will cut off from Jeroboam him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel, and will take away the remnant of the house of Jeroboam, as a man taketh away dung, till it be all gone.”
1 Kings 16:11: “And it came to pass, when he began to reign, as soon as he sat on his throne, that he slew all the house of Baasha: he left him not one that pisseth against a wall, neither of his kinsfolks, nor of his friends.”
1 Kings 21:21: “Behold, I will bring evil upon thee, and will take away thy posterity, and will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel,….”
2 Kings 9:8: “For the whole house of Ahab shall perish: and I will cut off from Ahab him that pisseth against the wall, and him that is shut up and left in Israel:….”
But I digress. Let's get back to "fuck"
https://www.etymonline.com/word/fuck
It's just a word that has many uses. So you don't like to hear it or see it in print. I don't care. Perhaps you can't understand the nuances of context and how that changes the meaning. I don't give a fuck. The problem is in your mind and your limited understanding.
Good post!
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