HONEST QUESTION - Are people on this sub actually Q followers?

[–] [deleted] • 7 pts

too many Q proofs to list---lots has already come true---if you follow from beginning to now--you would already know this

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Well I stopped 6 months in.

So, Trump had the election stolen. It was done in the open, tons of evidence, no one stepped in to help him (and us) including the supreme court. Everyone in all parts of the infrastructure showed their true colours and stabbed Trump in the back.

The Q thing was about a lot of things, but largely the thrust was that Trump will win because of events happening in the background.

How do you square the election steal against the claims that people were helping Trump win the election?

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[–] [deleted] • 2 pts

you need to bring people to the very edge of the cliff.....with one foot hanging over it----they need to stare into the abyss that's in front of them--to wake the sheep the fuck up---but 4-6% will always be lost

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

Agreed - otherwise we'd just yawn and return to complacency

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None of this means anything. Trump isn't president. How do you interpret that?

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ya its real, a real psyop, moron

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I listen to Q the same way I listen to podcasters, radio show hosts, and writers. They have some interesting things to say, whoever they are. Funny nobody ever labels, for example, Don Lemon viewers as "Don Lemon believers" or "Lemon Cultists".

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This is actually a fair way to approach it.

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The Lemon Heads! Those dastardly fiends. They are the worst.

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Somewhere in a parallel dimension, a Wikipedia entry starts; "Lemonhead is a disproven and discredited far-left conspiracy theory alleging that a cabal of racist klan members is attempting a government coup with Donald Trump as their secret leader. In June 2020, a pro-Lemon mob stormed the Capitol Hill neighborhood of Seattle, Washington." ...

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[–] [deleted] • 3 pts

You're damn skippy I am!

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Not an honest question. "Given that nothing Q has said has come true..." Youre douche-trolling.

Who else was predicting 10th Mountain Division movements we just saw? 2 years ago. One of many examples. If you really haven't been paying attn, and are truly wanting to answer that misinformed question, look for "q proofs". If you're an honest person, you'll be embarrassed by your question.

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[–] [deleted] • 1 pt

exactly--people don't follow--so they talk outta their asses---

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That is a fair response.

I stopped listening 6 months in because I was just following someone sprinkling vague dots that I had to spend hours to connect.

Here is why, even if some predictions were true (fine, I will grant you that), the Q thing is fake:

If Trump wanted to communicate with hist 80+ million supporters all he had to do is get his own streaming site going and do weekly fireside chats with his followers and even take questions. There is no need for an elaborate set of secret info drops to communicate with us though Q.

Like at all.

In fact, while Trump moved the scrimmage line for us further than we could have ever imagined (I am thankful for his presidency), we can critique him for a whole bunch of fumbles that he made. The biggest fumble was NOT communicating directly with his followers on a weekly basis, doing reports and fireside chats, fielding calls and engaging. That single thing would have absolutely destroyed the left because Trump is very personalbe and likeable when you meet him in person or just watch him live.

Now, that doesn't mean that whoever is running Q doesn't have real info and sure, yeah you are probably right about the military movements and such.

But, at the end, Trump is not president and he had the election stolen.

How do you square the above with the reality of no one ever helping Trump win the election? He was literally stabbed by everyone in the back, including Pence, Rand Paul and even the bloody supreme court stabbed him (and us ) in the back.

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If you'd stuck around you'd know that q said mult times that "The military is the only way".

Trump doesn't need to be POTUS if that's true, in fact, it may well be beneficial if the optics are more non-political. This isn't an operation against the Left. Its against corruption, human trafficking and Global government which will be Socialist. AND against the Cabal. Its more religious and moral than political.

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I respect this point of view. I do not believe that the military part, the global government and human trafficing is absolutely and demonstrably true.

If I can humbly offer a critique, the military part cannot be true because the military and deep state don't operate at those levels of indirection. No organization does, the logisticts for that are too difficulat to co-ordinate. All of the crimes of the globalists are simple and easy to spot if you understand how organizations work, how people in organizations work and what language they use. These people are not hiding, they are actually writing reports and telling us what they do, they just use very discrete and indirect language that hides the basic reality of what they are doing. They take what they do, package it up and sell it as something it is not.

I use the following baseline for analysis: reality has 3 layers, truth is usually on the second layer. So for example:

Layer 1: someone says some shit about someone. This kind of thing is 99% lies, people tell lies about other people all the time, its 99% of common conversation.

Layer 2: you do a little digging, talk to a few people and corelate stories, maybe you check the security cameray. You find out that what the first person told you is false but you do find that the person they are talking shit about is stealing office supplies. This is usually where the truth lies.

Layer 3: you start to suspect the person they are talking about is a secret double agent working for the government and they are here to infiltrate and catch the CFO embezzling funds. This is the the stuff that goes over the top and is false.

I stopped listening to Q stuff 6 months in because it was a bunch of random crumbs that I had to first interpret and second I ended up in Layer 1 and Layer 3 a lot of the time which were obviously wrong.

The military line you posted is Layer 3,its obviously false because military operations are secret, but they are always straight forward and executed with precision (if the situation allows it). The other stuff is Layer 2 stuff, and true in my estimation.

The problem with my Layer 1, 2 and 3 approach above is that the more I look into things the more things in Layer 3 appear to be true. Also, they stole the elction, that was a fucking elaborate operatio that had to be masterfully executed. They printed fake ballots and dumped them in just the right amounts to get Biden over the line.

So, I have my doubts but I am not 100% of my own estimates.

I respect this point of view. I do not believe that the military part, the global government and human trafficing is absolutely and demonstrably true. If I can humbly offer a critique, the military part cannot be true because the military and deep state don't operate at those levels of indirection. No organization does, the logisticts for that are too difficulat to co-ordinate. All of the crimes of the globalists are simple and easy to spot if you understand how organizations work, how people in organizations work and what language they use. These people are not hiding, they are actually writing reports and telling us what they do, they just use very discrete and indirect language that hides the basic reality of what they are doing. They take what they do, package it up and sell it as something it is not. I use the following baseline for analysis: reality has 3 layers, truth is usually on the second layer. So for example: Layer 1: someone says some shit about someone. This kind of thing is 99% lies, people tell lies about other people all the time, its 99% of common conversation. Layer 2: you do a little digging, talk to a few people and corelate stories, maybe you check the security cameray. You find out that what the first person told you is false but you do find that the person they are talking shit about is stealing office supplies. This is usually where the truth lies. Layer 3: you start to suspect the person they are talking about is a secret double agent working for the government and they are here to infiltrate and catch the CFO embezzling funds. This is the the stuff that goes over the top and is false. I stopped listening to Q stuff 6 months in because it was a bunch of random crumbs that I had to first interpret and second I ended up in Layer 1 and Layer 3 a lot of the time which were obviously wrong. The military line you posted is Layer 3,its obviously false because military operations are secret, but they are always straight forward and executed with precision (if the situation allows it). The other stuff is Layer 2 stuff, and true in my estimation. The problem with my Layer 1, 2 and 3 approach above is that the more I look into things the more things in Layer 3 appear to be true. Also, they stole the elction, that was a fucking elaborate operatio that had to be masterfully executed. They printed fake ballots and dumped them in just the right amounts to get Biden over the line. So, I have my doubts but I am not 100% of my own estimates.

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Hide and watch. You'll find out.

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What does this mean?

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Apparently theyre going for the International Cabal, will take more time. Art of War stuff, appear weak when you are strong.. Routing out the Euro elite is probably more involved, they probably have been building extensive UB's there for 100 of years

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What if Q was the CAbal or a psyop with the ability to move military around, you know, since they control everything, including the internet ?

Predictions mean nothing if its a psyop? AM I wrong? I can predict Santa is coming, and put presents under the tree when youre asleep right?

WHy didnt Trump pardon Assnage, yet he pardoned a shitload of wall street fraudsters and Israeli's? Hmm?

Is he setting them up for new charges?

Ive sees the pic of Trump "in the window" while Biden was signing EO. It could have been photoshopped and isnt very clear.

I saw the video of Nancy Pelosi being "escorted" and told " dont say anything"

I saw the video of Troops turning their back on Bidens motorcade.

very convincing indeed.

things do seem to be playing out.

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I believe Q is real, but a psy-op also. Like you stated, no arrests. I believe it help awaken people to what really goes on. I learned quite a bit from the whole experience. I'll never watch the MSM for obvious reasons. I don't trust anything government, especially now that we no longer have a vote that counts. The states, judiciary, and Congress failed the constitution, we the people. The entire lot committed treason prior to, during, and up to the completion of our last elected President. Not a swinging one of them was prosecuted. Without a doubt, I believed nothing could stop what was coming. Well, tell me if that was a psyop now. It certainly was. I only believe and trust in God. I believe Q or whatever did wake people up, and that was a good thing. The movement will continue to awaken people and expose and that is a good thing. I'll never believe x, y, z is going to happen on this or that date. That is the psy-op, disinformation BS a lot of us are disappointed in right now. Never again.

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I appreciate the feedback. I pretty much agree with your entire post. Q people are good people, I just think now we have to get away from our computers and start organizing.

Like you said, I also no longer watch or trust media or politicians. Hell, I now know that even our scientists and doctors are nothing but a bunch of liars, the lot of them. We are already half way there, next comes action.

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A) you are full of shit. You did not "follow Q from when it first came out." Anyone who has been reading the drops from the start would not make that kind of caveat. That's more something who followed NYT stories about "qanon" would say.

B) Q drops are hardly "leaks" in the conventional sense. Rather they are mainly questions, veiled statements, and hints for areas to dig for information. With the overall message that Patriots are now in control and that there is a plan in effect to right the ship, globally.

If I had any issue with Q overall is that it has been like Nostradamus, where overall everything is so nebulous that it offers no predictive value, but rather mostly confirmation after the fact.

In spite of the apparent shillyness; 1) Q is clearly the real deal. There have been far too many "proofs" (not proof in a legal sense, but as in confirming coincidences, too many to list, really) to be some kid in a basement. Where it is frustrating is that all are trying to figure out the plan, for whatever their true motives, nobody outside those involved know what the plan IS to start. Even Q has posted about not datefagging. So, when people highlight dates, it will only lead to disappointment because a date obvious to any of us would be obvious to the bad guys as well.

2) this is false. Things Q have said HAVE come to pass, not all and not in the form many of us would have expected for a biblical plan. I won't debate on a list.

You are right to mock those of us who expected inauguration day to be THE HAPPENING. I'm guilty too, but really, after inauguration, I really don't know of any legal route for Trump to return to office, and given how many pieces were coming together it seemed obvious as a deadline.

What type of actions are you expecting anyone of us to take? Beyond trying to redpill as many people as possible and to the degree possible?

Now, I've entertained your questions and apparent shillyness; did you watch much of what happened today as anywhere near "normal"?

As far as "the plan", I am clueless as to what the next move might be or when, but that doesn't mean I'm throwing in the towel. Hell, i almost got myself punched on several occasions trying to explain why 911 was a false flag to people the week after (I told a friend that day, "If they have a suspect before the dust settles they did it to themselves to justify a war").

So, as far as actions, you can expect me to be at work tomorrow because whatever else is going on, as it stands I still have expenses to worry about.

A) you are full of shit. You did not "follow Q from when it first came out." Anyone who has been reading the drops from the start would not make that kind of caveat. That's more something who followed NYT stories about "qanon" would say. B) Q drops are hardly "leaks" in the conventional sense. Rather they are mainly questions, veiled statements, and hints for areas to dig for information. With the overall message that Patriots are now in control and that there is a plan in effect to right the ship, globally. If I had any issue with Q overall is that it has been like Nostradamus, where overall everything is so nebulous that it offers no predictive value, but rather mostly confirmation after the fact. In spite of the apparent shillyness; 1) Q is clearly the real deal. There have been far too many "proofs" (not proof in a legal sense, but as in confirming coincidences, too many to list, really) to be some kid in a basement. Where it is frustrating is that all are trying to figure out the plan, for whatever their true motives, nobody outside those involved know what the plan IS to start. Even Q has posted about not datefagging. So, when people highlight dates, it will only lead to disappointment because a date obvious to any of us would be obvious to the bad guys as well. 2) this is false. Things Q have said HAVE come to pass, not all and not in the form many of us would have expected for a biblical plan. I won't debate on a list. You are right to mock those of us who expected inauguration day to be THE HAPPENING. I'm guilty too, but really, after inauguration, I really don't know of any legal route for Trump to return to office, and given how many pieces were coming together it seemed obvious as a deadline. What type of actions are you expecting anyone of us to take? Beyond trying to redpill as many people as possible and to the degree possible? Now, I've entertained your questions and apparent shillyness; did you watch much of what happened today as anywhere near "normal"? As far as "the plan", I am clueless as to what the next move might be or when, but that doesn't mean I'm throwing in the towel. Hell, i almost got myself punched on several occasions trying to explain why 911 was a false flag to people the week after (I told a friend that day, "If they have a suspect before the dust settles they did it to themselves to justify a war"). So, as far as actions, you can expect me to be at work tomorrow because whatever else is going on, as it stands I still have expenses to worry about.

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Fair response, I get where you are coming from.

Even if all of that is true and even if a bunch of things came true, here is my thought:

There was absolutely no need for any info drop through Q. All that Trump had to do was just to have weekly fireside chats over his own streaming service (while taking calls and questions) with 80+ million followers and:

a) He would have scared everyone shitless. 80+ million people is SCARY for the other side. They don't have devoted followers, they have only elitists and wannabe elitists that hate normies.

b) A ton of people on the other side would have seen Trump as a real person and not the monster msm paints him as. Trump is very personable and likeable one on one. If Trump tooks some heavy questions from the left and just said "hmm .. I don't know, let me look into that for you" and he would have broken a huge chunk of the democratic voters off for him self.

c) He could have brought the policy level down to the people and let people suggest and provide thoughts on various policies that would have made people feel like they had a modicum of input and control. Right now we have globalist pedo elitists flying around the world telling us to shut down our business. If he fielded questions from people about the shutdowns he could have even organized an insurrection against state lockdowns in a way that no state could EVER have resisted in any way possible because of the sheer number of people.

This is why Q is not real. It isn't necessary. The government and the world isn't full of scoobiedoo mysteries. I admit that conspiracies and such exist of course, but none of them require anything like Q.

It only gets worse, not only are Q info drops not necessary, globalists don't even lie to us about their globalist plans. They write papers and policies in plain sight and DIRECTLY tell us what is happening. The biggest coverup happening is they use lawyer doublespeak to leave out critical details and mask the truth of what they are saying, but they are saying everything they will do in plain sight.

Here is an example: https://www.bitchute.com/video/h8hHvqWEXw7s/

Please note, I am not trying to prove you wrong, this isn't a challenge. I think what is happening is that your brains are too powerful for the world around you. The world around is dumber than you might at first believe and your genuine incredulity at this is keeping your pattern matching systems in place searching for deeper meaning and truth.

When there isn't any. The world is truly run by the stupid. People that get degrees are NOT smart. They are only the most compliant monkeys that will jump through all the artifical hoops and roll over on command. Yet, these fuckers end up in government and other control points of the system.

Fair response, I get where you are coming from. Even if all of that is true and even if a bunch of things came true, here is my thought: There was absolutely no need for any info drop through Q. All that Trump had to do was just to have weekly fireside chats over his own streaming service (while taking calls and questions) with 80+ million followers and: a) He would have scared everyone shitless. 80+ million people is SCARY for the other side. They don't have devoted followers, they have only elitists and wannabe elitists that hate normies. b) A ton of people on the other side would have seen Trump as a real person and not the monster msm paints him as. Trump is very personable and likeable one on one. If Trump tooks some heavy questions from the left and just said "hmm .. I don't know, let me look into that for you" and he would have broken a huge chunk of the democratic voters off for him self. c) He could have brought the policy level down to the people and let people suggest and provide thoughts on various policies that would have made people feel like they had a modicum of input and control. Right now we have globalist pedo elitists flying around the world telling us to shut down our business. If he fielded questions from people about the shutdowns he could have even organized an insurrection against state lockdowns in a way that no state could EVER have resisted in any way possible because of the sheer number of people. This is why Q is not real. It isn't necessary. The government and the world isn't full of scoobiedoo mysteries. I admit that conspiracies and such exist of course, but none of them require anything like Q. It only gets worse, not only are Q info drops not necessary, globalists don't even lie to us about their globalist plans. They write papers and policies in plain sight and DIRECTLY tell us what is happening. The biggest coverup happening is they use lawyer doublespeak to leave out critical details and mask the truth of what they are saying, but they are saying everything they will do in plain sight. Here is an example: https://www.bitchute.com/video/h8hHvqWEXw7s/ Please note, I am not trying to prove you wrong, this isn't a challenge. I think what is happening is that your brains are too powerful for the world around you. The world around is dumber than you might at first believe and your genuine incredulity at this is keeping your pattern matching systems in place searching for deeper meaning and truth. When there isn't any. The world is truly run by the stupid. People that get degrees are NOT smart. They are only the most compliant monkeys that will jump through all the artifical hoops and roll over on command. Yet, these fuckers end up in government and other control points of the system.

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This was a more fruitful response than I had anticipated. I'm addressing your comments sequentially.

As far as the 'need' for Q drops; at best that's debatable and without knowing the plan is going to be speculation. I believe you are overly optimistic on what Trump could have accomplished through fireside chats. Remember, he wasn't even sworn in when they were discussing impeachment.

a) Yes, the increase in populism that Trump has seen should be a concern, but when the bad guys were already anticipating to reduce the world population to 500 million, I'm not sure that 'the people' are a 'concern' as much as 'a problem to be dealt with'.

b) This is a good point, my opinion is that the TDS had already been implanted. There's really not much rational discussion to be had with people so vested in the continuation of the status quo.

c) Possibly valid, but remember, Fauci and friends all started talking about Covid as something to not worry about until it had a chance to spread. THEN they demanded social controls. Even then they started counting deaths as "Trumps fault". Even with his initial cabinet, somewhere around 3/4 of them were all comped. Even those that appeared clean were just biding time.

You seem to be treating the Trump presidency like it could be compared with when Bush was inaugurated. The deep state clearly saw Trump as a threat early on.

As for if Q was 'necessary' to avoid the more detrimental planned outcomes, I could only guess. I understand your point about the scoobie doo mysteries. That was one that annoyed me of followers early on. Guys like SBBH would post these intricate deciphers of inane posts finding codes and even describing a method, the thing is that he wasn't even logically consistent in his deciphering and was clearly trying to fill in what was wanted. As a test, I tried to replicate a simple sentence code that could have 2 meanings and it was near impossible and would not be a code that could reasonably be used as comms. All in an effort to figure out the plan, but there was never enough information provided to make predictions, only confirmations after the fact.... and when you add in double (or more) meanings, some statements get confirmed from multiple angles.

Where Q really did benefit was focusing people to dig deeper into the MKUltra, sex slavery, Epstein and Weinstein types, etc. That many people would dismiss (and still do) UNTIL they see for themselves.

You're also accurate about the globalists not being shy about their plans, consider that this has been the case at least for decades. How many people have become aware of this type of information compared to pre-Q / Trump?

Your last point about the world being run by mainly stupid people, I can't disagree. It's rather shocking how stupid some can be and still manage to keep their roles. The high level globablists are more cunning, not necessarily smarter and by thinking in longer terms is a big factor in how people can be controlled. If you tell people to plan 1 move ahead in a game of chess while you are planning your moves 3-4 moves ahead, even mistakes made can be corrected by the time it makes your opponent's radar.

This was a more fruitful response than I had anticipated. I'm addressing your comments sequentially. As far as the 'need' for Q drops; at best that's debatable and without knowing the plan is going to be speculation. I believe you are overly optimistic on what Trump could have accomplished through fireside chats. Remember, he wasn't even sworn in when they were discussing impeachment. a) Yes, the increase in populism that Trump has seen should be a concern, but when the bad guys were already anticipating to reduce the world population to 500 million, I'm not sure that 'the people' are a 'concern' as much as 'a problem to be dealt with'. b) This is a good point, my opinion is that the TDS had already been implanted. There's really not much rational discussion to be had with people so vested in the continuation of the status quo. c) Possibly valid, but remember, Fauci and friends all started talking about Covid as something to not worry about until it had a chance to spread. THEN they demanded social controls. Even then they started counting deaths as "Trumps fault". Even with his initial cabinet, somewhere around 3/4 of them were all comped. Even those that appeared clean were just biding time. You seem to be treating the Trump presidency like it could be compared with when Bush was inaugurated. The deep state clearly saw Trump as a threat early on. As for if Q was 'necessary' to avoid the more detrimental planned outcomes, I could only guess. I understand your point about the scoobie doo mysteries. That was one that annoyed me of followers early on. Guys like SBBH would post these intricate deciphers of inane posts finding codes and even describing a method, the thing is that he wasn't even logically consistent in his deciphering and was clearly trying to fill in what was wanted. As a test, I tried to replicate a simple sentence code that could have 2 meanings and it was near impossible and would not be a code that could reasonably be used as comms. All in an effort to figure out the plan, but there was never enough information provided to make predictions, only confirmations after the fact.... and when you add in double (or more) meanings, some statements get confirmed from multiple angles. Where Q really did benefit was focusing people to dig deeper into the MKUltra, sex slavery, Epstein and Weinstein types, etc. That many people would dismiss (and still do) UNTIL they see for themselves. You're also accurate about the globalists not being shy about their plans, consider that this has been the case at least for decades. How many people have become aware of this type of information compared to pre-Q / Trump? Your last point about the world being run by mainly stupid people, I can't disagree. It's rather shocking how stupid some can be and still manage to keep their roles. The high level globablists are more cunning, not necessarily smarter and by thinking in longer terms is a big factor in how people can be controlled. If you tell people to plan 1 move ahead in a game of chess while you are planning your moves 3-4 moves ahead, even mistakes made can be corrected by the time it makes your opponent's radar.

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Great response, thanks!

I will agree that Q did get a LOT of people to start looking into things. This is perhaps why the media started to jump on the Q thing at the very end. Partially they wanted to smear, but, I suspect that people higher up were worried about the JQ making it further out there than their containment efforts allowed.

Thanks for the feedback, I appreciate it.