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A few years back I got a portable HF shortwave radio receiver that takes 4 AA batteries. Mine is a Sangean but there are many different makes & models.

I extend the whip antenna and use alligator clips to attach it to a 100' wire I ran perpendicular to my house. That's it.

From just before dusk to several hours after dusk, I can pick up broadcast stations worldwide. I have listened to english broadcasts coming out of asia & europe. Cuba broadcasts all day long on some bands. I've kept a log book of frequencies and times, for later reference.

In addition to these worldwide broadcasts, ham radio operators sometimes talk to each other directly in a modulation called "SSB" - think of it like a trucker CB type of person-to-person communication, but can reach potentially from Florida to Alaska. More commonly you'll find conversations between people in a state or a few states over. With the right ham radio, you can listen to global broadcasts in HF as well as flip to single sideband (SSB) mode and listen for these individual communications.

Transmitting / talking at these frequencies requires a license. However anyone can pick up a receive-only radio and listen.

So a ham radio provides access to a global network of what are essentially AM radio stations, as well as ability to listen in on individual or group person to person SSB communications.

Moreover, many ham radio operators are registered to assist in the event of an emergency. So while the other ham operators are responding to the emergency, I'll have exactly the right equipment to listen to all the information & chatter firsthand, without it being filtered through other sources.

In a grid or internet down situation, it is access to regional or worldwide information without any infrastructure required except some easy to charge batteries and a 100 foot wire.

A few years back I got a portable HF shortwave radio receiver that takes 4 AA batteries. Mine is a Sangean but there are many different makes & models. I extend the whip antenna and use alligator clips to attach it to a 100' wire I ran perpendicular to my house. That's it. From just before dusk to several hours after dusk, I can pick up broadcast stations worldwide. I have listened to english broadcasts coming out of asia & europe. Cuba broadcasts all day long on some bands. I've kept a log book of frequencies and times, for later reference. In addition to these worldwide broadcasts, ham radio operators sometimes talk to each other directly in a modulation called "SSB" - think of it like a trucker CB type of person-to-person communication, but can reach potentially from Florida to Alaska. More commonly you'll find conversations between people in a state or a few states over. With the right ham radio, you can listen to global broadcasts in HF as well as flip to single sideband (SSB) mode and listen for these individual communications. Transmitting / talking at these frequencies requires a license. However anyone can pick up a receive-only radio and listen. So a ham radio provides access to a global network of what are essentially AM radio stations, as well as ability to listen in on individual or group person to person SSB communications. Moreover, many ham radio operators are registered to assist in the event of an emergency. So while the other ham operators are responding to the emergency, I'll have exactly the right equipment to listen to all the information & chatter firsthand, without it being filtered through other sources. In a grid or internet down situation, it is access to regional or worldwide information without any infrastructure required except some easy to charge batteries and a 100 foot wire.

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Anybody can use a ham radio in a state of emergency. Unlicensed people here michigan when our caitlyn jenner freak of a governor declared state of emergency.

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True.

Also true: Different ham radios cover different frequencies and most people who plan unlicensed comms are using hand held Baofengs in UHF or VHF frequencies. I'm specifically referring to HF frequencies (3-30 MHz) which are long distance frequencies. Yes if it is a real exigent situation and life & death matter, you can use these frequencies without a license - but I would recommend getting a license. I studied the ARRL books for technician and general and am prepared to get licensed anytime. Right now I'm listen-only. If you're in Michigan and get a radio you can look up the Michigan Wolverine Single Sideband Net (wssbn.com), which meets on 3.935ish MHz daily :)

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I'll check that out tonight. Thank you.

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The problem is, most people don't know what a repeater is, how to use it. Without a repeater, many parts of the country only allow a couple mile range with most handhelds.

Additionally, if their radio isn't already programmed and the net goes down, good luck getting the frequencies. Might be able to scan and discuss with a ham.

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Question: does transmitting at those frequencies require a license to purchase the equipment required to transmit, or is transmission simply restricted to those with a license, and if caught transmitting without a license, you will be punished?

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You can buy the equipment without a license. You need a license to transmit at these frequencies.

Does Poal have any ham radio activity? I know voat had some that did it but I never got into it.

noice. thanks OP

any resources you recommend for getting into this kind of thing? Guides, places to buy equipment, etc?

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My interest was in receiving long distance comms. So that is HF (High Frequency) spectrum, 3-30 MHz.

It's a much lower pricepoint to get a receiver-only radio, as compared to a transciever (transmits and receives). And the antenna is a 100 foot wire, as simple and cheap as it gets. You can search the intertubes for HF shortwave receiver and get a ton of information.

Also look for "SDR" which stands for software defined radio. Lots of inexpensive options with SDRs if you have a computer you can attach it to.

You can also get a taste of what this is all like by using an online software defined radio. You can visit http://websdr.org/ and actually use your browser to connect to computers in different states and listen at these frequencies.

Then when you want to spend the big bucks (say over $500) you can start thinking of transcievers, antennas, antenna mounts, power supplies, and other things.

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KAITO - KA-600L good radio with diff. power sources. AM/FM, NOAA Weather, Shortwave 2.3- 23Mhz, but NO SSB, under $100. https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/prepare/0470.html. . CCRANE - Skywave SSB $150. AM/FM, NOAA Weather, SSB, Shortwave 1117- 30,000 khz, Plus Aircraft Band 118-137Mhz. A good deal. https://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/portable/0434.html ............................ https://www.universal-radio.com/ Don't forget that with the internet up you can listen in to free shortwave on web based shortwave receivers, hunt around, many with no sign up, just use.

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Hell yeah.

I recently was gifted a Kenwood TS2000 and am in the process of installing some antennas and learning how all this magic works.

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Make it a priority to program your local club and repeater frequencies.

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Hell yeah is right! I looked up the specs on a Kenwood TS2000 (kenwood.com)and it is quite a machine! It'll take some time just to learn all it can do, let alone trying it all out!

Good luck to you and keep us posted on how it works for you!

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Good luck, I've found it to be interesting and fun. But it's not for everyone.

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Thanks - my dad was/still is into HAM since mid-70's.

I've got a bit to learn, LOL

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The Tecsun PLL-880 is a nice receiver and packed full of features.

The link was my captures while in the big sandbox.

https://archive.org/details/ShortwaveFromOverThere

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I just got one of those hand held ham radios a few months ago... Bafeong I think is the brand. Me and a friend are planning to get our ham radio license.

When you say you ran “perpendicular” to your house do you mean up/down or do you mean along the ground? Post a picture if you can.

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VHF/UHF FM is mostly vertically polarized. Think "car antenna". You want your antenna to be straight up and down, with a good ground plane under it. If you ever plan on transmitting you'll need to make sure it is resonant at the frequency your transmitting on otherwise you may damage the transmitter.

Edit: re-edit: edited the wrong comment

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Yes correct. You would want your antenna setup for what you want to receive and what frequencies you are listening to.

If you are interested in receiving HF, horizontal antennas are common.

If you are interested in UHF/VHF, vertical antennas are common.

So there is not just one right answer here, it all depends on your goals on what frequencies. I'm not suggesting anyone hook up a 100 foot wire to their baofeng antenna :)

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Sorry, didn't mean to imply that you were suggesting that. I think there was some confusion about what radio covers what bands and modes. I should have clarified that my message was specifically about the handheld Bafeong VHF/UHF usage. Especially since the original topic was HF/shortwave. Didn't mean to add to the confusion. Great topic though :)

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Go for Technician class. Easiest to pass and will allow you to access everything that 2 meter Baofeng has to offer

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Straight out from the house horizontally above the ground. Out a window and straight away from the house. Mine is about 10 -15 feet above the ground held up in trees. Goal is to have it away from the house so as to get as little EM interference from the house as possible.

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OK, so what model do you have?

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I just bought (1) BaoFeng BF-F8HP (UV-5R 3rd Gen) 8-Watt Dual Band Two-Way Radio (136-174MHz VHF & 400-520MHz UHF and (3) Baofeng UV-5RE Two Way Radio Long Range Walkie Talkie UHF VHF Radio Dual-Band136-174/400-480 MHz 128Channels for close proximity communications. It's my understanding I cannot transmit on the 8-watt without a license and am supposed to reprogram it before using sans license... does that apply under state of emergency? New to this as well. Suggestions/Tips/Hints Welcome. Thx Patriots! :)

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Yes the ARRL "technician" manual covers these frequencies very well. You should search the intertubes for the repeater frequencies in your area, and look for video instructionals on using UHF/VHF repeaters.

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If you are using this from time to time the FCC will never bother with you

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You'll want to look up the FRS/GMRS and MURS bands. While technically that radio is not not legal there, you likely won't be bothered. If your not running ridiculous power levels or splattering across the band it can be easily assumed that your using one of the type certified radios for that band. Many people do this. Pretty sure the majority of those radios are sold with that purpose in mind.

Edit: I forgot to mention frequency deviation. These radios will have that setting. Most of the FRS/GMRS channels are narrowband (2.5khz), while some of the MURS channels are 5Khz. Be mindful of this setting. If your deviating 5khz on a narrowband channel it will be obvious that your not using a type certified radio.

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Will we be able to receive the Emergency Broadcast System announcements on radio? I'm concerned about them deactivating them for phones.

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